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	<title>Comments on: Babble (Updated).</title>
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	<description>Deplorable solipsism? The new face of literature? Or merely a clever procrastination device...</description>
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		<title>By: Geohde</title>
		<link>http://flotsamblog.com/2007/06/08/babble/comment-page-1/#comment-83409</link>
		<dc:creator>Geohde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found your blog. Nice work.

I&#039;m jealous of your ovarian abundance, quite frankly.

The best I can do is two lously follicles on Clomid. Lining 7mm. Yawn.

Geez, if it was me and a cycle like yours (loads of follicles) got canned I&#039;d root with my husband like there was no tomorrow and sort out any mutliples after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found your blog. Nice work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m jealous of your ovarian abundance, quite frankly.</p>
<p>The best I can do is two lously follicles on Clomid. Lining 7mm. Yawn.</p>
<p>Geez, if it was me and a cycle like yours (loads of follicles) got canned I&#8217;d root with my husband like there was no tomorrow and sort out any mutliples after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://flotsamblog.com/2007/06/08/babble/comment-page-1/#comment-78068</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn it, that sucks.  I hope that you&#039;re able to convert to IVF.  Fuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn it, that sucks.  I hope that you&#8217;re able to convert to IVF.  Fuck.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://flotsamblog.com/2007/06/08/babble/comment-page-1/#comment-77881</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am hereby adding a new line to Alanis Morissette&#039;s &quot;Ironic:&quot; 

&quot;It&#039;s like foo-ooour big follicles in a PCOS patient/When you were just hoping for one.&quot;

Here I am, desperately hoping that when I&#039;m finally able to try Letrozole, I will have at least one &quot;follie that could,&quot; and you&#039;re having to wait because your ovaries are overachievers. Life sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hereby adding a new line to Alanis Morissette&#8217;s &#8220;Ironic:&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s like foo-ooour big follicles in a PCOS patient/When you were just hoping for one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here I am, desperately hoping that when I&#8217;m finally able to try Letrozole, I will have at least one &#8220;follie that could,&#8221; and you&#8217;re having to wait because your ovaries are overachievers. Life sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Leggy</title>
		<link>http://flotsamblog.com/2007/06/08/babble/comment-page-1/#comment-77538</link>
		<dc:creator>Leggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got no advice for you as we never faced that situation. Just wanted to send my sympathies- I&#039;m sorry its such a long, frustrating road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got no advice for you as we never faced that situation. Just wanted to send my sympathies- I&#8217;m sorry its such a long, frustrating road.</p>
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		<title>By: electriclady</title>
		<link>http://flotsamblog.com/2007/06/08/babble/comment-page-1/#comment-77428</link>
		<dc:creator>electriclady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry you got cancelled--that just sucks, bigtime. The lovely double-edged sword of PCOS--damn ovaries are too stubborn to reliably produce a mature follicle on their own, but hyperstim like mad with just a little extra juice.

I hope you and Dr. Doctor are able to come up with a good follow-up plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry you got cancelled&#8211;that just sucks, bigtime. The lovely double-edged sword of PCOS&#8211;damn ovaries are too stubborn to reliably produce a mature follicle on their own, but hyperstim like mad with just a little extra juice.</p>
<p>I hope you and Dr. Doctor are able to come up with a good follow-up plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://flotsamblog.com/2007/06/08/babble/comment-page-1/#comment-77366</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say see if you can convert to IVF. If you can&#039;t - either for monetary reasons, or b&#039;c the RE won&#039;t go for it - then what the hey - try regular ol&#039; sex. Chances are not ALL the follicles will release, and even if they did, chances that each one fertilized AND implants AND stays? That would just be craziness.

As for the lining, mine was 6 or 7mm when I got pregnant with DD and everything went just fine. If you need a med suggestion - your doc could put you on Estrace[sp?] the help thicken your lining - but it&#039;d have to be in the beginning of the cycle, day 10 might be too late. I had a very thin lining the cycle we did injectibles and IUI, but with Estrace it thickened up to the 6 or 7 that it was when we were successful.

Good luck - keeping fingers crossed for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say see if you can convert to IVF. If you can&#8217;t &#8211; either for monetary reasons, or b&#8217;c the RE won&#8217;t go for it &#8211; then what the hey &#8211; try regular ol&#8217; sex. Chances are not ALL the follicles will release, and even if they did, chances that each one fertilized AND implants AND stays? That would just be craziness.</p>
<p>As for the lining, mine was 6 or 7mm when I got pregnant with DD and everything went just fine. If you need a med suggestion &#8211; your doc could put you on Estrace[sp?] the help thicken your lining &#8211; but it&#8217;d have to be in the beginning of the cycle, day 10 might be too late. I had a very thin lining the cycle we did injectibles and IUI, but with Estrace it thickened up to the 6 or 7 that it was when we were successful.</p>
<p>Good luck &#8211; keeping fingers crossed for you!</p>
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		<title>By: Nearlydawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nearlydawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m in the minoritiy here I guess... My RE had me do an IUI with 10 follicles showing. We did get PG, with 2, but they were ectopic. So in the end it didn&#039;t work out, but they DID have us go forward with the cycle.

BTW - My RE never suggested we convert to IVF. The clinic&#039;s success rates are good, and their high-order multiples rate is very low (3%). 

Just 2 cents from my RE&#039;s office...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m in the minoritiy here I guess&#8230; My RE had me do an IUI with 10 follicles showing. We did get PG, with 2, but they were ectopic. So in the end it didn&#8217;t work out, but they DID have us go forward with the cycle.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; My RE never suggested we convert to IVF. The clinic&#8217;s success rates are good, and their high-order multiples rate is very low (3%). </p>
<p>Just 2 cents from my RE&#8217;s office&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My clinic (in Canada) would only allow IUI w/a max of 3 mature follies.  Anything in excess of 4 follies would qualify to convert to IVF if you wanted to.  That said, it is early days and there is a possibility some of those follies will fall behind and not develop.  I had around 10 follies developing early on in my cycle (and was panicking!) but as I got closer to trigger time only 3 went on to mature and be large enough to trigger (in the 21-23 range if I remember correctly but I may be way off in my recollection) and the rest had all fallen behind.  Had they cancelled my cycle (only would have happened if I had 4 follies since that was too many for IUI and too few to justify IVF) I def would have gone for good ol&#039; fashioned SEX, multiples be damned.  As it is, w/3 mature follies, I ended up w/twins.  But I would have been ok w/SR if necessary.

Oh and you are very wise to be terrified of multiples.  Very wise.  Twins are doable (just barely) but anything more than that is madness.  And I speak from experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My clinic (in Canada) would only allow IUI w/a max of 3 mature follies.  Anything in excess of 4 follies would qualify to convert to IVF if you wanted to.  That said, it is early days and there is a possibility some of those follies will fall behind and not develop.  I had around 10 follies developing early on in my cycle (and was panicking!) but as I got closer to trigger time only 3 went on to mature and be large enough to trigger (in the 21-23 range if I remember correctly but I may be way off in my recollection) and the rest had all fallen behind.  Had they cancelled my cycle (only would have happened if I had 4 follies since that was too many for IUI and too few to justify IVF) I def would have gone for good ol&#8217; fashioned SEX, multiples be damned.  As it is, w/3 mature follies, I ended up w/twins.  But I would have been ok w/SR if necessary.</p>
<p>Oh and you are very wise to be terrified of multiples.  Very wise.  Twins are doable (just barely) but anything more than that is madness.  And I speak from experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Ellen</title>
		<link>http://flotsamblog.com/2007/06/08/babble/comment-page-1/#comment-77018</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry Alexa.  This just sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry Alexa.  This just sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bitter Mama</title>
		<link>http://flotsamblog.com/2007/06/08/babble/comment-page-1/#comment-76562</link>
		<dc:creator>Bitter Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you get good news about a possible conversion cycle.  I know that my old clinic in my old state was all for it, but my more recent clinic in my more recent state didn&#039;t do it because there were certain hoops you had to jump through to be able to do IVF at all (all sorts of STD testing and the like).  

If this cycle is a bust, I think an IVF cycle next go &#039;round might be worth discussing.  If you stim so well, the drug costs would be low, the chance of success would be high and the chance of freeze-worthy embryos would also be high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you get good news about a possible conversion cycle.  I know that my old clinic in my old state was all for it, but my more recent clinic in my more recent state didn&#8217;t do it because there were certain hoops you had to jump through to be able to do IVF at all (all sorts of STD testing and the like).  </p>
<p>If this cycle is a bust, I think an IVF cycle next go &#8217;round might be worth discussing.  If you stim so well, the drug costs would be low, the chance of success would be high and the chance of freeze-worthy embryos would also be high.</p>
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