Nipples, Nipples Everywhere and Not a Drop to Drink.
When I was pregnant with Simone and her brother, I had two strong feelings about breastfeeding. One was that I really wanted it to work, and the second was that I would not feel guilty if it didn’t.
And then I gave birth fifteen weeks early. Providing food was one of the few concrete things I could do for my daughter, and I asked for a breast pump immediately after surgery. When I was wheeled to the NICU the next day, I proudly clutched two specimen containers each containing a teaspoon of milk. I was like the three wisemen, with the addition of a morphine pump and postpartum swelling. Myrrh schmyrrh—I come bearing colostrum! Take me to the child!
Even if you know better, it is hard not to feel guilty after ejecting a baby who weighs substantially less than your own liver. I felt that motherhood and I had gotten off on the wrong foot, and while I may have been laissez-faire about breastfeeding before Ames died, I was now determined to succeed. After all, I’d ended up with only half the babies I had expected. Surely “I’ll try” for two babies becomes “I will” with only one. Breast milk is important for preemies, both for the immunities it provides and because it reduces the risk of Necrotizing Enterocolitis. So for the next three months, I pumped, at the hospital and at home, filling my freezer with bags of milk arranged in neat rows by date.
Two months into her NICU stay, Simone was cleared to breastfeed, and once given the opportunity she lurched toward my chest and took it with gusto. Her mouth was still too small to latch effectively, so we used a nipple shield, and within a week she was taking full feedings from my very own bosom. Many premature infants have trouble learning to breastfeed, but my daughter has always been single-minded in her pursuit of food, and we became a kind of NICU sideshow that nurses and lactation consultants would travel hallways to see: the incredible nursing preemie!
And then, a month later, we brought that preemie home.
At first things were fine and then, abrubtly, they weren’t: my supply took a nosedive, and during feedings Simone began sobbing in frustration until we were both in tears, windmilling her arms and sometimes screaming until she couldn’t breathe. The nipple shield was no longer necessary, but any attempts to wean her from it were met with the rankest scorn.
I have been hesitant to post about this, because nothing brings out the “ire” in “Internet” like the subject of breastfeeding, but I just spent 70 minutes nursing, sixty of them punctuated by shrieks and deranged thrashing, mostly Simone’s. There was milk to be had—I could express it manually—but she was unimpressed, and eventually I gave her a small bottle I’d pumped this morning. She gulped it clean in ten minutes, sighing quietly between sucks, and I thought to myself: What am I doing? Why am I doing this to us?
At the risk of sounding like a woman defending her abusive husband, allow me to tell you that sometimes Simone and I have perfectly lovely feedings, wherein she nurses happily and neither cries nor hits me. But these are inevitably followed by one that traumatizes the both of us, and as much as I used to enjoy breastfeeding, now I am coming to dread it, not knowing which baby—the content, sighing model, or the version whose head spins at the mere suggestion of areola—I will get. And to be fair, Simone will occasionally scream just as loudly during a bottle feeding as she does at the breast.
Some of the screaming is caused by how contrary she is when hungry, but her anger at breastfeeding, I suspect, stems from both my low supply and the fact that after a month of three pediatrician-mandated bottles a day, she has cottoned on to the fact that with a bottle, the work to food ratio is much lower. I am not saying that bottles are evil, mind you. I like bottles. I doubt I would be adjusting to life with a baby so swimmingly were it not possible for Scott to handle the occasional feeding, so bottles are here to stay.
It is common to experience a decrease in supply around the three to four month mark, and mine coincided with the reappearance of my old nemesis, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. One symptom was an upward creeping of the numbers on the scale, numbers which had remained steady since the return of my Lady Cycle eight weeks postpartum. The impetus for my recent return to the world of Points(tm) was more than my desire to lose weight, it was also conversations with a nurse and lactation consultant, both of whom suggested that skipping breakfast and subsisting on tea and pasta might be affecting my milk production, and both of whom thought the WeightWatchers plan for nursing mothers was an excellent one. And things have improved since two weeks ago. But they haven’t improved enough. I’ve considered exclusively pumping, because I can pump, prepare a bottle, and administer it in less time than it takes me to nurse. But I don’t know if I’m ready to give up on breastfeeding.
And then there’s the guilt. One of the lactation consultant’s suggestions was that I pump after every nursing session and then pump whenever Simone gets a bottle.
Woman, I thought to myself as I gaped at her, you have got to be kidding.
As it is, I have less than 90 minutes between feedings in which to go to the bathroom, eat, and write—forget the things I have let slip through the cracks, like bill-paying, laundry, and personal hygiene. You are high if you think I am going to pump after every breastfeeding session and then ruin my only four-hour stretch of sleep by waking when Scott gives Simone the midnight bottle. I get the distinct impression from breastfeeding advocates that they think I ought to lock myself in a room with only my baby, a hand-whittled nursing stool, and a tube of organic lanolin, not emerging until I have established exclusive, nipple-shield-free breastfeeding, but I am finding that as much as I want this to work, I am only willing to do so much. I take fenugreek. I pump twice a day, and I nurse for four or five feedings, each over an hour long. It’s not the path of least resistance, but it is the path of less resistance, and part of me feels like I should be trying harder. But the other part of me just wants less screaming and more time playing Crazy Arms, you know?
I should mention that as I type this Simone is sleeping against my chest in her sling looking cute as a goat. Which makes me think “Aww, never mind, it’s not so bad!” but I AM POSTING ANYWAY because I know this is infant trickery on her part, much like the way she is silent and angelic as soon as a childless guest enters the house in order to encourage the perpetuation of her tiny species. I’m on to you, baby.





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My mom was an LLL leader. I’m currently nursing a 20-month old. I am a firm believer in breastfeeding, that it is the right thing to do all things being equal.
BUT: SOMETIMES THINGS ARE NOT EQUAL. Nursing is a relationship, and like any relationship, it takes cooperation from at least two people to make it work. You need to keep your sanity, and Milk Lady needs some time to her damn self.
OF COURSE breast is best. OF COURSE exclusive shield-free nursing is the best of all possible worlds, when it is possible. But I’m with you on the Crazy Arms vs. Screaming equation, and if moving towards more pumping and less nursing is what makes that happen, then it’s what makes that happen. Feed your daughter in whatever way gets her fed.
And, as a pre-comment to anyone who comes in here all self-righteously yapping about nipple confusion or Evil Evil Bottles or “just nurse more!” or whatever, let me just remind you that Simone was born at twenty-five weeks and change, that it is a miracle and a half that any sort of breastfeeding relationship has been established at all, and that Simone’s DOCTORS — doctors who have ACTUALLY SEEN AND TREATED HER — have mandated the fortified bottle feedings. If things had been different; if Simone and Ames had been born healthy and at term, or even if Simone had been born eight weeks later, than things might be different. But they weren’t, and they’re not.
Every caring bonded mother knows what is best for her child. Trust your instincts, Alexa, and roll with the punches as best you can.
Ah, breastfeeding… The best of times, the worst of times.
My milk supply started dwindling around 4 months too and my daughter would do just like Simone. I’ve been taking all things homeopathic plus fenugreek tea and doing the milk dance to the gods… to no avail.
In Brazil doctors usually tell mothers to take metoclopramide, which I’ve been doing every 12 hours for the past ten days. I did work wonders, but I can’t live on that. Still, I’m struggling with the very idea of having to wean my 6 month-old. Guilt, sadness and an overall need to punch the next person that says breastfeeding is the easiest, most natural plug-and-play thing in the world. One of the best things I’ve ever done? Sure. Easy? Never.
Dude
I went through the EXACT same thing, starting at 5 months. We ended up weaning at 9 months. So I suffered for FOUR MONTHS and I hated myself and finally had to give myself permission to STOP. The Boy would nurse fine in the early mornings and at bedtime, but fought me tooth (har har, not until 11 months!) and nail the rest of the time.
It was exhausting and I hated myself and was scared to really talk about it with anyone for fear of being judged. Ah how I wish the Internets was as big in the Blogosphere back then as it is now.
Keep on trucking if you want to, but it’s all good if you don’t. You’ve gotten her through the most critical time, so SCORE!
You are going to get a lot of comments from people who persevered through misery and loved breast feeding and are so glad they did it.
So I will just say that I have a whole category over my way called “I hate breast feeding,” should you need support if you decide you want to stop dreading feeding your child.
I don’t even need to leave a comment other than to say “everything Kathryn said” because she said it all!
Alexa you rock. You are an amazing mom and you and Simone will figure this out. This is from a mom who uses breast and bottle with her own baby due to low supply. I’ve done the fenugreek thing and have now resorted to domperidone. I’ll let you know if it helps. I’m just on day one.
p.s. I’m here from my new blog.
Being 18 some years past breastfeeding my own daughter, perhaps I should just shut up but I just want to give you a little pat on the back and say, “You do what’s right for you and Simone. And you (and Simone) have a better idea of what’s right for you than anyone else.”
You do what gives you the most happy time with your daughter. Life’s too short, and your baby’s grown too fast, to spend much time with an Exorcist baby if you don’t have to.
You know, there is always a line a person is not willing to cross. I loved BF my first. Only quit at 9 months b/c I was working and I couldn’t stand the pumping any more. Loved it with my 2nd too — until at 6 months she started fighting me, nursing deteriorated, supply nose-dived — you get the picture. Not uncommon at that age to be too interested to nurse — but when I researched how to get past that stage (which consisted of either (a) pumping many, many times a day) or (b) letting her nurse all night long), I thought, “you must be f*ing kidding me.” So even for me, super-zealous BF’er that I was, there was a point at which it was no longer worth it. She was weaned by 7 months.
All of which is to say, that point comes at a different place for everyone. Some people never get pushed to that limit — some find it at 2 weeks old. Whenever you get to your limit (or if you never do) — it will be FINE.
Breast feeding is hard. Duh. I quit after 4 months when a. ) my DD decided she only wanted to nurse off my right boob and screamed holy hell when I offered my left (unless it was in the middle of the night and she was half asleep) and b.) firmly rejected any sort of bottle after taking one happily since she way 3 days old. Drove me out of my skull and in my sleep deprived stupor, I declared, I quit. Bottles for you from now on, enough of this. You are the momma, you can decide what is best for you AND what is best for your screaming demanding precious child. Whatever you decide she will be fine with it, I am sure.
First child = 3lbs 9oz. Breastfed and/or manually pumped for 3 months…unsatisfied baby…WIC formula = happy baby, happy momma.
Second child = 3lbs 8oz. (11 years later). Pumped for 11 months, nursing never quite took off and I don’t think we ever had a complete meal from the breast. But, he got breastmilk exclusively until his ped. gave the all clear to go straight to cow’s milk and skip the formula.
All this to say…do whatever works and don’t beat yourself up about it. If you have the desire and supply, continue to pump and continue to try to breastfeed. (Eating oatmeal helped my supply while pumping, though it may not for everyone). If you’re miserable and Simone is not getting satisfied, then formula does *not* equal failure. It is merely a different means to the same end: nourishing a growing, beautiful, healthy baby.
Best wishes.
De-lurking to say – I think Sarah R. said it all (how’s that for laziness on my part!). I’m a firm believer in the life’s too short philosophy and you’ve already done such a good job giving her the best start possible.
Infant trickery – it’s so true. I have a 6 week old myself and he’s the master at perfect baby disguises!
ps – I love your blog, love the way you write and so glad you have Miss Simone in your life now.
I have 4 children, 2 were exclusively bottle-fed, 2 exclusively breastfed. They are all smart (or at least smart ass), charming, compassionate, not likely to be serial killers, bonded to me and only hate me as much as they should.
Do what works for you and Simone. Don’t worry about what anyone else thinks. Don’t worry about what you should do, do what you can do and make peace with it.
My oldest is going on 17, and sincerely, from this end infancy is so short. Enjoy it, it will be gone before you know it. And the parts you hate? They will be gone before you know it too.
Enjoy your beautiful baby, do whatever makes you both as happy as possible.
My goodness, Woman, you’ve done a hell of a job thus far. If you decide to keep at it, then more power to you. If you decide you and Simone have had enough, then surely you’ll feel some guilt, but it will pass and you and Simone may just be a bit more peaceful. No need to beat yourself up or second guess yourself.
I don’t think my milk ever came in properly as I had an emergency c-section and didnt’ get to hold my baby until he was two weeks old. I pumped a lot, but I just never really made a lot of milk.
I will add one thing that may or may not be coming into play here. My son was recently given the all-clear to have thin liquids at ten months. I was over-joyed to skip the thickener. Only problem was nobody told Charlie that he didn’t need it any more. He prefers his milk thickened and we’ve had to wean him off of it very slowly–he’s getting about 25% of what he was getting before at Nectar consistency. Perhaps Simone is simply showing a preference for that thicker milk?
Anyway, I tried to pump until the three month mark when I couldn’t keep up at all with his demand. I felt super-guilty, but life goes on. AS much as you can do is as much as you can do and no one should demand any more than that.
Parenting a new baby is hard enough when everything goes perfectly – please take a moment to pat yourself on the back for how well you have coped so far. You will figure out what is right for you and Simone and then you will do that because parenthood is a lifetime of feeling your way, experimenting and doing what feels right in the end.
I haven’t read any of the comments, but *if* you want to keep breastfeeding (which I did, because I was an emotional sadomasochist, having lost a twin too.. nursing was a very loaded thing) – forget everything anyone ever tells you about pumping more, or magical east indian herbs, or drinking water, or la leche support groups or latching diagnostics.
Run, don’t walk, to your doctor and ask for Domperidone, a lovely, teensy little pill that boosts your supply in a matter of a day or so. Simone will be drinking from a firehose, I promise you: for me, knowing I had milky bazongas took away so much stress for us both. Domperidone is safe, and you decide when you’ve gotten over the dry spell (and thus stop taking it). I took it for two spells, about three weeks each time. It worked beautifully. No angst whatsoever, except for the fact that Ben nursed like a frigging dog with a bone. RRRAAAGGH.
Anyway, this is all assuming that you’re 1) looking for advice, and 2) keen to keep it up. Do whatever you need to get calories into that girl – and if it happens to be your emotional ideal, then that’s gravy. If not? Pour yourself a nice, stiff drink and treat yourself to a proper underwire bra and pat yourself on the back for a job well done.
xo
I think it’s amazing what you have accomplished. A friend of mine had a preemie (28 weeker) who never took to nursing. My friend pumped round the clock for the first year of his life. I pumped when I went back to work (and beforehand trying to build my stash) and hated it. My supply sucked, it took forever, it HURT, and I was gulping oatmeal and fenugreek every other hour.
I ended up having to fold and give the girl a bottle of formula a day, and the stupid part of it? I felt guilty. Guilty! FOR FEEDING MY CHILD.
It’s insane the guilt and angst that surrounds feeding babies. Feeding is what’s important, not the method. I support either method, just not those that look down their nose at the other side for whatever reason. We’re already our worst critics, we don’t need other mother’s coming down on each other.
You’ve done good, Mama. And you know what’s best for your girl.
Hey Alexa, I nursed both my girls with nipple shields (hello, inverted nipples!), and for 8 mo with one and 13 mo with the other….while working full time. The first time around I beat myself up about it b/c I thought it was affecting my supply, her latch. blah blah blah. But she would not nurse w/o it. The 2nd time around I tried (half heartedly) to nurse w/o it, but again she could not latch, and I was more c’est la vie about it. And it went better. Also, for supply issues, please look into domperidone — it works like a dream. You have to have it made at a compounding pharmacy (at least you do here in WI), but man oh man does it work great. If you can’t do that, I had some good luck with fenugreek (but then your milk and baby stink like maple syrup). And if you are done with nursing, that’s ok too. You’ve done awesomely great already!
I BF’d my two children — the first for 8 months (quit because of a work out-of-town thing) and the second for 11 months. With both, right along the 4 month mark, I experienced the same thing as you — supply nose-dived, kids took a growth spurt, and I was frantic. I don’t mind a bottle, I mean heck, my kids both took bottles during the day when I was working, but it was breastmilk. I am too cheap to buy formula if I can “pump it for free.” (Considering the cost of a good pump, and the bags, and the other supplies, plus the time, hassle, etc, not sure if it is really truly more “economical). Cheapness aside, I researched (i.e. Googled) and found someplace that sold Domperidone/Motillium. Loved it. Two days on it, my supply was back up to engorgement stages. Good for you, good for the baby. It worked great for me, and our relationship was back on track, so to speak. It may not work for you. Trust me — in the mommy grading game, I’m not sure this really scores all that high in the long run.
I just want to put this out there, because you may never hear it from another source, but we’ve NEVER nursed without the shield successfully (unless you count that ONE time) And we’re going on 14 months. Seriously, no, not kidding. No really. And my supply has been fine, pumping for full time job and daycare and all. There were dips, but I pumped one extra time in the AM, and froze, and we were good.
That being said, do what is best for your, and only you. Full boob, part boob, no boob. You’ve already done more than most, and everyone is better for it, but no need to kill yourself.
whew, there are some things Simone is right on track with!! We also went through the dark and screamy time with nursing at about 4 months… I was lucky, he recovered after a couple weeks, and we are still nursing several months later. But oh, man, it’s so frustrating, particularly that bit about not knowing which baby you will get at a feeding. I used to get all freaked out about it, and then when we sat down to nurse, Bonzo was a little angel and my husband/mother/well-meaning neighbor would look at me like I was crazy for not wanting to nurse my baby. Ah, good times.
Anyway, whatever works for the two of you, you go for it.
Alexa, you are awesome!!
I am the mom to three BF kids- the first one 6 weeks with supplements, the second one 8 months, no supplements. The third, well that was a whole
“other story”. Very severe Jaundice, told to stop BF, but my stubborn self would not give up.
I rented the hospital grade pump, with awful results, but after the jaudice resolved, I BF that baby for 18 months.
Might I add that this was in 1982, you know, back when dinosaurs ruled the earth.
My children are now 34, 30, and 26, and could care NOT A WHIT how they were fed as infants. As a matter of fact, if I ever tried to discuss this, I would get major “rolling of the eyes”.
I truly believe in BF. You have given Simone an awesome start…..but….
15 years from now she will not give a rat’s ass as to how she was fed as an infant.
Hang in there Alexa. Whatever decision you make for you and that beautiful daughter of yours is the right one..
Hugs from…
Grandma Debbie
I love the funny ending of this post. I say forget what ANYONE says about the reasons to or not to breastfeed. You have to do what is right for your baby AND for you. Being a good mother is also about being a happy woman. I think anyone who says you have to sacrifice everything for the sake of your children, become some sort of automaton… well, they probably need a hug and some strong whisky.
Alexa my dear, you’ll get no prizes for suffering. Your aim is a contented, well-fed baby, and if that means resorting to a bottle – so what. You have done amazingly well to get this far with bf and there should be no shame or sense of failure attached to stopping now if that’s what happens. Give yourself a break. You have been on an emotional and physical rollercoaster for so long that a bit of good old coasting along wouldn’t come amiss!
I nursed all 3 of my kids to 15, 17.5 and 20 months(I just weaned him saturday) and I am a huge supporter of breastfeeding. Sometimes I get opintionated about it when I hear moms saying “I could have breastfed, but it wasn’t worth the hassle” Because I hate that some woman thinks of her child as a hassle. Its not my business if she breastfeeds…but I get pissy on behalf of her child.
THAT SAID…I think you’ve done amazing…and you don’t need me or anyone else to tell you that. You’re daughter is a survivor and she’s lucky that her mom has care enough…hassled enough to give her what she can. Given the amount of stress I am sure you’ve been under…the sheer emotions that must be burbling around…I think its phenominal that you have done so well.
Don’t let anyone make you feel guilty…especially yourself…if and when you wean Simone from breastfeeding…it will be whats right for you both.
She’s adorable…you’re doing a great job.
Ugh. Been there, done that, minus the 25-weeker who would actually nurse (we got ONE WHOLE FEED!!! the entire time I tried to convince her that really, boob was better for all of us).
A thought – could her cannula be irritating her nose when she’s nursing? I thought this might have been part of S’s problems with nursing. Don’t know why that might show up now rather than earlier, but it might be worth looking into.
Do what is best for both of you, and by “best” I mean getting calories into the child and you not going completely out of your gourd. Guilt is not your friend, blah blah blah.
Hang in there, whatever you do.
In my experience with breastfeeding, which was largely successful but ended too soon for my taste, was that at the end of the day you will likely remember mostly the good times and also any guilt if things did not go smoothly or go as long as you would have liked.
Just remember that you did. Pumping continually is cruelty, in my opinion; that you don’t go to that nth level of sacrifice for a bit more boob juice merely means you will remain level headed and sane for your child. Sanity really should be more of a priority.
I ended up quitting nursing earlier than I originally planned due to the decreased milk supply issue. It was pretty emotional for me even though I didn’t love breastfeeding.
Whatever you do, you are doing what is best for you and your daughter given the information and experiences you have had. Don’t feel guilty if you end up quitting. And, if you are able to continue, good for you lasting as long as you have.
Sometimes you just do what you can. I made it to six months with my daughter, and we went through numerous fighting stages. It seemed like they were during growth spurts, but who knows. At four months my supply diminished and it pretty much quit at six. If you can get through it, great. If not, don’t feel guilty. You do what you can. I have PCOS as well, and I definately felt like that might have played a role. It supposedly causes an oversupply in some women, but I think that may have been why my supply diminished.
I’m easily nursing my 2 1/2 year old, but it took a full YEAR for breastfeeding to be easy. Was it worth it? Oh, who knows. Just do whatever works best for the two of you!
Delurking to join the chorus of support – you are doing a good job, under very challenging circumstances. You will continue to do a good job, because you love that baby. Everything else is just details.
Ian was never a good breastfeeder – jaundiced, couldn’t stay awake, combative when he was hungry. We did syringe feeding for weeks, then went to bottle, and I felt pretty bad about it – couldn’t I have tried harder? – but there was really no choice, as he needed to eat.(between pumping and finger-feeding every 90 to 120 minutes, getting calories in this kid was a full-time job for both of us.) Husband and I quickly decided our priorities:
He must eat enough
He must eat good stuff (for us, that turned out to be about 80% pumped milk, supplimented with soy formula)
and the delivery system was immaterial.
(Shockingly, he actually learned to latch great at 3 about months! After months on the bottle! He enjoyed breastfeeding for about 5 months, then started to fight again…and at that point, he was eating solids and when my supply dipped, I said “fine” and tapered off pumping.)
You’re doing a great job.
I’m sorry for posting this piercing glimpse into the obvious, but it actually took me a while to figure this out when I was nursing my firstborn (born at 4lbs. 2 oz). I am now nursing baby #3 (11 months old), and it really makes a big difference how much water you drink. Tea, for instance, is a diuretic, and will cause you to pee out fluid which might otherwise be channelled into the boobs. Coffee likewise. You need to drink lots of glasses of water throughout the day, Also (and the nurses in my prenatal class gave us this tip, so please don’t lynch me for passing it on), beer which still contains live brewers yeast will aid in the milk production. Guiness is reputed to be very good, although I’m not much of a stout drinker myself. You could check out your local microbrewery though. A pleasant (and relaxing) way to boost the milk production….
I have breastfed my three daughters, and I had supply issues with each one. Pumping helped, but I still had to wean them earlier than I wanted to because their skinny little selves kept falling off the weight charts. So I understand what you are going through.
When I weaned each of my girls, the relief of finally being able to feed them as much as they wanted was so great that it obliterated any mommy guilt or pressure from the lactivists. There is peace in seeing your baby full and content, and I would wean them early again in a heartbeat, no matter who gets judgmental about it.
“what works for you as a family” has been some of the best advice ever given me, one that has guided me through some pretty complex decisions with my husband and twins. So I’ll just add that to the waves of encouragement found in the above comments.
One piece of potentially valuable information in case you decide to pursue breastfeeding a while longer: the midwife who saved my reproductive life suggested that I drink a product called Oat Milk to enhance my milk supply. Turns out it’s tasty. The most common brand is Pacific, and it’s found in the soy milk/rice milk section of your local natural foods store, or Whole Foods, or your local food coop. It really did seem to help with supply for me.
I echo everyone else when I say: you’ve done the most important thing already. Now whatever happens will be fine.
It’s amazing that you’ve done so much already. You know yourself and Simone best. Breast might be best, but you are the momma so YOU get to make that determination for yourself. Many of us from our generation were bottle-fed from our first feeding and we grew up happy and healthy.
I am just winding up the last few days of lactating for my 10 month old. Breastfeeding sessions were bad for her first three months – low supply, PPD for me, etc. She decided that she only wanted either the breast, or the bottle – none of this switching back and forth for her – which was inconvenient since I didn’t have enough supply to make her gain any weight whatsoever! She did the screaming thing. I can remember getting SO MAD at her! It was really tough for me. Finally we decided that we would give up the nursing part and just give her the bottle. I pumped and got about 8 oz/day (total, through about 6 pumping sessions) until I started taking Domperidone. It’s really a miracle drug without some of the Reglan (metaclopramide) side effects. I ordered it from New Zealand off the internet. After I started taking domperidone I got about 20-24 oz daily which was pretty incredible for me.
Now, after 7 months with no side effects from domperidone, I’ve decided that enough is enough. It really wasn’t so bad – pumping and giving her the bottle – once I started taking domperidone, but I’ve had one too many plugged milk duct by now. Plus she’s at a really fun age, so I’d rather spend that time interacting with her and growing her brain that way.
Eliminating the nursing stress but still being able to provide breast milk made it worthwhile for me somehow. I don’t know how I found a way to make it work for myself for that long, but I did. I can’t imagine that way would work for everyone but it might work for some.
The biggest thing I learned is that it doesn’t all or nothing. I thought if I stopped physically nursing her that my supply would go down to nothing and she would never get breast milk again. Now I know that if you pump and/or nurse a few times a day and give her a little breast milk for a while, it won’t spell the end of your supply! You can always boost it again if you absolutely want to. And, you know, are willing to order semi-illegal drugs off the internet. And all that.
Oh, and the other thing I learned is that getting mad about the nursing thing was actually good momma training! It felt shameful back then to get so frustrated with her, but I learned the valuable lesson that it’s ok for her to do frustrating things and ok for me to get irritated or mad about it. I really notice the difference in the way I interact with her now when she does frustrating things (such as refusing to let me change her poopy diapers because she wants to be crawling around). I feel like I can roll with it really well, because of all we went through nursing, whereas my husband is just now learning the lesson. So, it’s an opportunity for more momma training (not that you need it because you’re doing great).
You have done a wonderful job this far and keep doing whatever feels right to you. I am unable(no supply..none..zip…zero) to breastfeed and all my boys 6,3,4m were/are bottle babies and are just fine. I figure as long as they are healthy and happy, and have a happy mommy then that is what is important.
Good luck to you in whatever you decide and remember it is what is best for you and Simone.
I’m going to post because I can’t not, though I’m sure that the last thing you need is more advice. That said – if you *want* to keep breastfeeding, or *want* to keep pumping, and are having issues with supply, please look online for domperidone/motilium.
I went from pumping 8 times during a workday (seriously – I’m surprised I wasn’t fired for not actually working) and getting 12 ounces, to pumping 3 times a day and getting 18 ounces. And when breastfeeding had a milk drunk baby on a consistent basis.
And, big advantage – my period said bye bye and hasn’t come back (I’m at 10.5 months), although I think it’s on its way now that I’m down to 10mg twice a day.
Anyhow, having a bigger supply might make life easier for Simone, or at least help you pump more faster, so that you can keep giving her breastmilk, even if you supplement.
Best of luck.
Kat
I’m a veteran of the nursing wars, and I have one BTDT thing to add that no one else has: you should get your thyroid checked. If you have post-partum thyroiditis, your thyroid levels will be on the way down — and so will your supply. Your weight creeping up could also signal this. My advice is to have a blood test, no matter you decide about nursing.
good luck to you both,
Amy
Ugh. I drove myself INSANE with the breastfeeding issue. It was a challenge for us from day one and continues to evolve into new challenges. The day I finally agreed to supplement with 8-10 ounces of formula a day, I cried for two days. Until I started talking to non-internet moms. Online one would not be mistaken for assuming that everyone breastfeeds and it is the easiest and greatest thing ever. But I fell in with a circle of new moms in my own little hamlet and I was shocked to discover how many of then supplemented with formula and thought nothing of it. Online moms, when you have a question, will send you right to kellymom.com because the people that often answer the breastfeeding questions seem to be the ones that don’t have a lot of breastfeeding problems to overcome. Kellymom is a great resource for breastfeeding, but that site always leaves me feeling like a tremendous asshole because I never found breastfeeding all that enjoyable and dutifully continued because I refused to believe that any other way was ok. Offline moms, when you have a question about breastfeeding, grab your shoulder, pat it and tell you to get through your day any way that you can FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. My son is now 6 months old and his diet is now about 70 percent breastmilk and 30 percent formula. He’s really fighting the teat as of late and if it continues, I don’t know if I have the energy to keep fighting for a nursing relationship with him. I can’t pump worth a damn, so he may get more formula. I’m so tired of this whole formula/breastmilk bruhaha. I feel for you. Sincerely!
32 week preemie. Pumped for three months because he never latched on. Quit doing that. Felt horrible for not continuing on despite the pain, despite the pathological fear of nighttime when the screaming and non-eating was especially bad.
Took me about a month and I was over it. He’s fine; great, in fact. Simone will be fine. When Mama’s happy, everyone’s happy.
Be good to yourself! Don’t spend time beating yourself up, it just does no good. That being said, I loved to suffer over BF issues – my 3lb2oz daughter was not good at it, needed a shield, never got great at it and gave it up at 8 months, but being stubborn I pumped for 7 more months, until I started trying to conceive again. The pumping I could do, and I did do, and the one good thing about it was when I was pumping the Daddy had babykins, and I would read. I missed my reading time so much, so I got good at holding two boobie bottles in one hand so I could turn pages and snack with the other. I’m pretty sure you could blog while pumping handsfree, if you can stand the pump.
But you get to make the call – I also said ease and naturally being good at BF were motherhood’s dirty little secrets. Don’t be suckered into feeling bad!
Remember when you were pregnant and you didn’t feel real, you felt like a fake pregnant mommy and freaked out in stores? And some of that baggage you have been able to drop off by now, because your life is pretty damn real indeed? You have earned the right to forgive yourself.
I can totally sympathise! I have a 20 week daughter, who was 6 weeks early and a NICU baby. I tried until she was 16 weeks to breastfeed, including the use of shields and a supply line (a bottle connected to a tube that goes to the breast.) I had a lower milk supply and my daughter seemed to prefer the bottle as it was less work. I also have PCOS but didn’t realise until week 17 that it is a factor in low milk supply. I express three to four times a day and supplement two feeds with formula a day, but every day. I wanted her to have breast milk because I also felt it was the one thing I could give her when she was sick. It’s very tiring, especially as I get up in the night to do it, but I feel good about it. I am taking Motili.um which is a medication for digestive problems but a side effect is lactation. It gives me about 100 to 150 mls extra per day. I found fenugreek worked initially but then it kind of dropped off with its effectiveness.
I just wanted to say you are doing so well and congrats on your beautiful daughter!!
Have you thought about metformin? Fenugreek, oatmeal, beer, and metformin saved my PCOS butt. We’ll have been nursing a year on Friday. And I had a hellish start – nine days before any white milk came in and I did the pump after each feeding and with each bottle, but I don’t get milk when I pump.
You might step back and just try to get through each day. Tell yourself you’ll decide in the morning whther or not you want to continue. That was the only way I made it through the six or eight weeks of “But I’d rather have a bottle and its fast milk, you wicked shrew!” I got from my son.
Good luck whatever you decide!
This is off-topic – but when I saw the baby feet photo in your “I Like It” list – I wondered if you were familiar with this poem by Edgar A. Guest.
http://www.sofinesjoyfulmoments.com/quotes/babyfeet.htm
and speaking of baby poems – here is my favorite….
http://www.bartleby.com/246/315.html
ps – you are an amazing mother & writer!
My one and only (full term) is now age 33 and a former breastfeeding mom herself (4 kids ages 10, 8, 6 and 3). I recall not having very much milk starting at about 3 to 4 months as well, and she weaned herself at about age 9 months, which made me feel like a failure. But….she was fine. Kathryn way above, said it all and I agree with her. I agree with what most everyone has said here: Do what is best for you and Simone. She’ll be fed and nurtured, whether it’s breast milk or formula.
My late mom told me once that at about 3 months of age, doctors figured out that I was allergic to cow’s milk, so my mom attempted to bring her breast milk back in, but could not. So….I was fed soy milk way back when (I’m age 57 now). Mom said it was scarce, expensive and hard to find. However, I made it too.
Simone will make it. Do what’s best for both (or all 3) of you so you can have some peace and enjoy your baby before she grows up.
PS: I just had a thought…..goat’s milk is much richer than cow’s milk and has a similar flavor (I’ve tried it). How about considering goat’s milk for Simone. It’s pricey and a little hard to find, but available.
Just an after thought. ;)
My opinion is that mother knows best. Certainly if she is still getting breast milk whether by bottle or not she will be fine. Do what feels right and the rest will fall in place.
Lurker here …
First comment …. In order for baby to be happy mama has to be happy. So do what you need to do in order to make mama happy … the rest will follow.
I have two kids … both were breastfed babies. One thing I want to point out is that there will be multiple times during your breastfeeding relationship with Simone that it will just seem like too much work. It is this way for everyone and if they say different they are likely viewing the past from a perch several years in the future. There will be times that you will just need to get through this period. The reward will be immense.
Lastly, I don’t know much about PCOS and its affects on lactation. However, if your cycles have returned low calcium could be an issue for you. This caused me all sorts of milk supply issues with my son. See the following … in fact go to kellymom.com if you haven’t and browse around.
Low milk supply associated with menstruation: Calcium/magnesium supplement
Some women experience a drop in milk supply from ovulation (mid-cycle) until the first day or two of the next menstrual period. A woman’s blood calcium levels gradually decrease during this period of time, and for some women the drop in blood calcium causes a drop in milk supply. For women who have this problem, calcium/magnesium supplements may be helpful. This practice has also been reported to eliminate most uterine cramping and some premenstrual discomfort such as water retention.
The recommended calcium supplement dosage is between 500 mg calcium/250 mg magnesium and 1500 mg calcium/750 mg magnesium (the higher dosage is generally more effective). Calcium dosages this high should not be taken alone, but as a calcium/magnesium (or calcium/magnesium/zinc) combination. Otherwise the calcium will not be adequately absorbed into your body. The amount of supplement depends on the composition of your diet — the more animal protein, the more calcium/magnesium needed. If you are a vegetarian or vegan, the lower dosage may work fine for you.
Start the supplement when you ovulate, and continue through the first few days of your menstrual period. If periods are irregular, then begin calcium/magnesium at 14 days after the beginning of your last menstrual cycle, or simply take the supplement every day.
Another (past) extended-BFing Mom agreeing that you gotta do what works for you. Like some of the other posters, I have been know to get a little pissy with the Moms who “couldn’t be bothered” to BF as I strongly believe that breast is indeed best.
HOWEVER… you have been “bothered”… you have tried damned hard to make it work (and have already given her a fabulous start!) Stressing over this will not help your supply or your parenting.
My kids both nursed till they were 2yo; that’s MY experience and I wouldn’t have it any other way. YOUR experience is different in so many ways… as long as little miss pudgy cheeks (gad I LOVE those cheeks!) is getting enough to eat, and you are both (relatively) sane; that’s all that matters!!!
NO MORE GUILT!!!!
I couldn’t get through your whole post because it was making me weepy. I remember that all too well. I was trying to nurse DS, who screamed and cried. I cried out of frustration and pain. I couldn’t get in touch with a LC because apparently people don’t need them on weekends. After days of trying and listening to my DS scream, I gave the bottle. All of this as I was getting a massive infection and running a temp of over 104.
I wish I could say I never looked back, but I felt such immense guilt (and still do to some extent). I tried relactating at 6 weeks but that didn’t work out either. Fenugreek, I think, caused me some horrible cramping.
Anyway, you do what you have to do to stay sane. Pumping, and nursing, and bottle feeding… it’s nuts. I tried it and like you said, you have to have time to eat and shower.
((hugs))
Guilt, shmilt. Fuck the internets, and do what you need to do to stay sane. Happy mom, happy baby. Period.
I had low supply from the get-go, and I tried EVERYTHING, including the insane pumping schedule your LC recommended. For several weeks, I fed and pumped 12-14x/day EACH. And my son still lost weight. I can’t tell you how crushing that was. And I still felt so guilty, even though everyone around me was super-supportive. When the LCs tell you it’s time to supplement, though, there ain’t much you can do.
If you feel like trying things to boost supply, there’s fenugreek and domperidone, which you can get from an internet pharmacy in Vanuatu (no joke). It works great for some people. Didn’t do jack for me, and I was on it for 9 weeks at the max dosage. I may be making this up, but I seem to recall it works well for PCOSers. Anyone know for sure on that?
But if you decide to call it quits, that is a totally sane decision. Parenting involves MUCH MORE than feeding. Eventually, I did give up my partial-breastfeeding ways (which meant nursing, giving a bottle, and pumping each session) since all of my interactions with my son involved feeding, and that gets to be unfulfilling for everyone.
Oh, darling, those lactation consultants can be an evil bunch. Let me tell you. Please don’t give what you are doing a second thought. YOU ARE THE MOMMY and you know best. (even if no one else agrees)
I had a horrible time pumping, so my problem was almost directly opposite of yours. My 1st..no problem…#2…slight problem…#3…no milk in sight. My production also quit or almost quit by about 4 months with all my kids. You do what you need to so you can provide Simone with some mommy love. If it includes bottles exclusively, then so be it.
Blessings to you…mommy! :)
I too have pumped while the wee one was in the NICU, twice now, and used a nipple shield. I know what you mean about breastmilk being all you can give your preemie while in the NICU, and that first tube-feeding with YOUR MILK is a momentous occasion. It’s like, “Hey, I guess I *am* a mother after all!” At least for me it was. That said, the process of pumping and nipple shielding and then shield-free feeding is a LOT OF WORK, to say the f-ing least, so give yourself a lot of credit.
If your blog is any reflection of your true life experience, you have really handled this long, godforsaken experience, from A to Z, with amazing strength and determination. It’s okay to let this go, hard as it may be. You do not need any more stress than you already have/ have had. I just had a baby at 31 weeks, and before that I had twins at 34 weeks – would’ve been great, but the one twin was back at the PICU just 3 days after his NICU month stay, and he went on to have health issues his whole first year of life (he’s okay now). If there is one thing I’ve learned, it’s that even when you have a kid with a unique history/needs, it is still best to give yourself a break as much as possible- probably even more necessary, in fact, than if everything had gone swimmingly in the first place.
Alexa, I’m not going to tell you what I did with my own or whatever. You sound like you’re struggling which is surprisingly normal. Babies like consistency. They don’t like change. They like to let you know they don’t like change. It’s gonna happen no matter what people say. Increase your supply, get a better nipple shield, hold her this way, hold her that way, use a certain bottle. No matter what you do, Simone will let you know what she thinks. It just takes persistence and stubbornness to get through to her that this is the way things are, no matter what you do, bottle or breast with or w/o shield. It looks to me that you are having a battle of wills with your wee one there, and no matter how young she is, she may win sometimes. :-)
Poor you guys – it’s so hard sometimes! I am the mom of 2 preemies, neither of whom latched on early (jealous!!). I pumped for 3 months with my first and 4 with my second. Somehow, they each did latch on and then nursed ok (after some of the most painful sh%t I can remember). But, my first was happy to eat with whatever came his way – breast, bottle, finger..anything! He thankfully didn’t have nipple confusion.
The second – not so much, and after 2 months of trying to juggle the breastfeeding and pumping for a bottle, I gave up the bottle and nursed him exclusively. Why do I tell you this? Babies have minds of their own!
That said, sounds like your breasts do too.
Have you tried to express a little milk BEFORE you latch her on? If you’re engorged when she latches, it’s harder for her to get the milk out effectively. And it’ll get the milk flowing too. Just a thought – it helped for me a few times.
If you can work something out where you can still nurse her, even a few times a day, you’ll fall into a rhythm, and I promise, all the horror of pumping will disappear from your memory. (Well, maybe not all, but definitely some).
Good luck. Oh, and do you use a bottle that’s like a breast? We found, with our little guy that the gerber wide top one was great. shaped very similar to a breast/nipple. even my lactation consultant approved.
I say feed your baby how she asks to be fed and don’t look back. With babies this young, I don’t think that you can go wrong by listening to what they want and giving it to them.
So Alexa, I looked to see if you have an email link but I don’t see one, so hence the kinda weird comment – from the other commenters, it looks like there’s some issue with getting domperidone in the states. strange…
anyway, if this is the case, I’ve got a full bottle here that you’re welcome to. Now I really feel like a pusher-mama, but if you likey my drugs, let me know. I’d be more than happy to mail them to you. So many people helped me during and after our NICU hoopla by sending us necessities, it’s my karmic duty to say to you “psssst… wanna pill?”
I kid. kinda. But they were great for me. Feel free to do the necessary googling and if you’d like them, they’re yours. sweetsaltykate (at ) gmail.
This breastfeeding thing is tough stuff! The first two months of nursing my now 7.5 month old son were absolutely miserable. I didn’t have supply issues, rather it was excruciatingly painful, at every, single, feeding. Nothing helped the problem in those two months, not the advice of different lactation consultants or scouring the internet for solutions, it eventually resolved on its own. My advice if you want to keep breastfeeding? Take it one feeding at a time. I set little goals for myself to just make it through the next feeding, the next day. I also let myself to do whatever I needed to do to make it through the day, even if that meant using a nipple shield for the pain (and enduring the excoriations of lactation consultants that that’s not what nipple shields are for!) and relaxing with a (large) glass of wine in the evening.
You’ve done an awesome job so far. Whatever you decide to do, Simone is lucky to have you as a mom.
You know, my son started getting really super fussy while he was nursing around that age too. I never connected it with low supply (although maybe it was?) It went away after a little while (at the time it made me crazy, but now I can’t remember how long it lasted.) So maybe it’s worth hanging in there a little longer in case this is a passing thing?
My oldest was not a preemie but did have a very rough start in the NICU (breathing problems, mostly.) He had a terrible time nursing and even after he had it down (with a nipple shield), would sometimes do exactly what you describe–the enraged flailing and whacking. It made me think of the knot in the Whomping Willow… if only I could get to his mouth to turn off the arms! He would also, after the first gulp, arch his back, scream, and whip his head back and forth seemingly in frantic search of food while the nipple was RIGHT THERE. If I gave him a bottle, he’d go after it like his life depended on it–but sometimes did the same thing with a bottle. I started dreading nursing with this horrible sick dread. Sound familiar?
I’m still not sure what caused it, but it did pass. Maybe it was reflux? It wasn’t that I didn’t have milk, but that the milk hitting the stomach hurt him; he associated that with nursing and wouldn’t nurse more; by the time he got to the bottle, he felt better. Maybe try a little bit in a bottle first, then the breast? I never found a good solution myself, mostly because I was too frazzled to think clearly, but in retrospect that’s probably what I should have done.
In the end, he it passed, and he nursed till 18 months. I don’t even remember that so much anymore as being the hard part. Now, when he got teeth…
I haven’t had time to read all the comments, but you could talk to your doctor about domperidone (google it, Kellymom talks about it) to help your supply.
Beware of Reglan – it caused a raging case of postpartum depression in me.
Domperidone isn’t available in the US, you have to get it from a compounding pharmacy, but it’s available in Europe. Reglan is approved for use in the US, and as a result it’s harder to get Domperidone, but it works better.
Oatmeal is also excellent for your supply. So is Brewer’s Yeast – which is a supplement you can get at the health food store. You can also drink very dark beer, but for obvious reasons, that could be BAD for Simone (although, if you need an excuse….).
Could she be getting a tooth and using you as a pacifier instead of nursing to get food? Does she take a plastic paci? Maybe see if she’ll suck on something cold, a teething toy of some sort, instead of you.
Good luck, honey. As mothers, we all do the best we can. Don’t let anyone give you grief.
Hugs,
Amy @ http://prettybabies.blogspot.com
**this is UP TO YOU TWO. do what works. try not to beat yourself up over your choices.
**PCOS and domperidone are like, well, um, gin and olives? a perfect fit. i’ve heard that domperidone is pricey but i know several women who have used it and swear by it. IF you want to keep nursing, talk to your doc about it.
**my doulas recommended beer for me while nursing. not only does it somehow help supply (the hops, maybe?) it is certainly relaxing — and THAT helps supply.
lots of luck,
–c.
Alexa, you are doing a great job. I gotta tell ya, I BF mine for 4 months until I had to go back to work. She went on the bottle after that. She’s 25 now (and successfully off the bottle :-) and healthy, happy, smart, and an all-around wonderful woman. What’s more, she’s my best friend. Keeping the stress level down is more than worth it.
Nursing my first was a breeze, nursing my second was a nightmare and made me realize, THIS is why women give up breastfeeding, THIS is what they are talking about! I told my husband, I’m going to try to get to six weeks, that’s it. Luckily, it worked out. I weaned him at 14 months. Supplementing is so NOT the end of the world, or the end of the nursing relationship. You can BF once or twice a day if you want, almost indefinitely. If she’s getting formula, she might just enjoy nursing to be with you. Don’t worry that you’ll make an irreversible decision by giving her an extra bottle. Take it one day at a time. You are doing great. Simone is adorable.
I haven’t read through the comments, so maybe it’s been covered, but my question is this: what’s the problem with the nipple shield? I’m not asking that in a sarcastic, mean way. I honestly don’t have a sense of why (if) it is an imperative to not use it.
I also had a NICU baby, so she got accustomed to the ease of bottle feeding. From the time I started nursing her a couple times a day in the NICU, we always used a nipple shield. And we continued using it after I took her home, until one day when she was around 4 months old when she fussed and fussed while I was trying to feed her. I took off the shield and tossed it across the room, and she latched to the breast and never looked back–she just suddenly didn’t need the shield anymore. But honestly, if she had nursed better with the shield until I weaned her at 9 months, I would have had no problem using it that long.
So just wondering if there’s some medical/physical/other reason you need to get rid of the shield? I also don’t know if it even helps that much–you didn’t really address that in the post. But if it helps, I say use it!
By the way, when I started reading your post, I had a helpful response re decreasing supply all ready for you. Because when my girl was 5 months old, I started dieting hard, and my supply dropped to almost nothing–WITHOUT ME KNOWING IT. I have no idea how that worked. But I still had milk leaking, I could see it coming out, etc. I just had no idea that I had WAY less than I had had a few weeks before. Until, after 2 weeks of crazy fussiness, a light switched on in my brain and I decided to spend a day NOT restricting calories, and see what happened. On the baby’s first feeding the next morning, she pulled off after she finished, and promptly projectile vomited all over the bed–there was so much milk, and her stomach had shrunk, she couldn’t even handle it. I sobbed. My baby had been HUNGRY for two weeks, so much that her stomach shrunk. I’ll tell you what, I did not try to diet again until after I weaned her. I learned a big lesson. So anyway, knowing that you had started WW and that you’re having supply issues, I wondered if you’re not getting enough calories. But it’s a moot point, right? Because you said that you’re actually eating more on WW than you were before? That’s good. Just make sure you’re getting enough calories, girl!
I’m as big a fan of breastfeeding as anyong; but I agree with the people who realize that breastfeeding should be taken as part of the whole picture. You’ve breastfed Simone long past the point of heroism and you really do need to consider the impact on you, the family, the relationship with Simone, etc. I don’t think any sane person in the world could fault you for a moment. And if someone does think you didn’t try hard enough… well, who cares. It’s your baby.
You need to do what works for you and Simone, period. But you are right, nothing brings out the beast in the internet mommy world than breastfeeding. :)
One of lessons of motherhood is that you can NOT do it all and that is okay. You have to forgive yourself. It will make you a better mother.
You do your best and you do what works for you. Do not beat yourself up over it.
Personally, having experienced both paths… twins who screamed at the thought of breastfeeding… and a singleton who’d have it no other way… I would do whatever you could do to maintain the (mostly) exclusive breastfeeding as it IS way easier in the long haul. Way way easier. Unfortunately, we didn’t realize that until baby #3.
But I do completely understand your current struggles with irate baby, sleep deprived parents, and supply concerns.
Sleep deprivation, the food you eat, and the amount of nursing she does will absolutely impact your supply. More of all of the above will only help maintain your supply. Less of any of the above and your supply will take a hit.
Take a day to spend in bed together… just relax, nurse on demand, and rest up.
And… domperidone… rocks and you can get it inexpensively.
Good luck!
Just a reminder that you are the funniest writer even (especially when you are super frustrated).
A friend of mine has a 10 week premature 5.5month old. She also had some supply issues around the same time and she found that pumping more than breast feeding made her supply diminish more. I also had a little issue (nothing like yours but some supply dip) and found that adding a pump in once or twice a day did correct it.
Basically depending on your situation, we both went more to boob, plus an additional pump, and that helped keep our supply more voluminous for the little vulture.
I also found that when I was more careful about my calories, my supply seemed to be less satisfying. So eat and worry about the weight when you are ready to wean maybe?
Take all these with a huge boulder of salt and do what works for you.
I tried, but I can’t even bring myself to read through the comments, because it takes me back to when I was trying to decide whether it was worth it to keep breastfeeding Asher, and if I am to be perfectly honest, that was a really dark time in my life. What I wish now was that I had gone with my gut instinct and done what was healthiest for me, instead of crying my eyes out every day and feeling an overwhelming sense of guilt. Unfortunately, when I think about the first few months of Asher’s life, I think more about our terrible breastfeeding relationship than I do about being a new mom or loving my new baby. That’s the truth. What I hope for you, Alexa, is that you find what works for you, because the last thing I would ever wish on you was for you to look back and regret that you wasted time worrying so much about feeding Simone and not just enjoying her babyhood. I will be thinking of you. Please know you can always email if you need to chat. XOXO
I haven’t read all the comments ( and I doubt if you are either… but I have read Emily above me and she said exactly what I wanted to say.
Sanity is so, so important and it tends to get overlooked.
Number one rule (after Feed The Baby): Enjoy Your Baby. You decide what makes you best able to do that.
(Everyone already said the actual practical advice I would give. So that’s all I’ve got left.)
I heard or read somewhere that babies get all the benefits of breastmilk in only 1 oz a day. I know there’s more that goes into the whole experience than just the nutritive value, but if it’s making you both miserable and you dread doing it, maybe it’s time to look at other options.
I totally agree with everyone who said that a good momma is a happy momma. Be kind to yourself and do what YOU feel is best for you both. You are just as important in this equation as Miss Simone.
I feel your pain. My baby wasn’t very impressed with my milk supply either. He was miserable for the two weeks I exclusively breastfed. He was less miserable, but still pretty irritable, when I breastfed and supplemented with 2 ounces of formula after feedings. Honestly, he became his happiest when I breastfed, gave him as much formula as he wanted (as per my Dr.), and he got past his first big growth spurt. I still breastfeed, but I feel like it’s mainly for sport. It’s a comfort and there is milk, but I don’t have a huge supply either. I do it at night mainly since I’m back to work. It saves the trip to make the bottle and the baby seems OK with it. I remember in the beginning we had those frustrating feeding sessions too. It seemed like they were never ending (every 20 minutes or so), and I couldn’t even get in enough nutrition and hydration to not run dry before he was satisfied. We had latching problems, too. Anyways, to me it just sounds like you have a hungry baby (breast milk digest quickly and some babies are just more ravenous than others anyway). I would do whatever you need to do to keep you both happy and healthy. And try to let go of the guilt. I know it is hard. But a friend and fellow mom once told me, “Guilt is a wasted emotion.” I think she is right. You are clearly a wonderful mom. Take care. All the best. You are not alone.
What a great community this is! I had to stop BF my daughter at 4 mos, I thought because I had emergency gall bladder surgery. Despite all my ocd reading, I did know the 4 mo supply change that you all have mentioned. Anyway, still beating myself up….despite the fact that I was solely formula-fed, have a high iq and am well-adjusted and love my mother dearly :) It’s wonderful to see women of all backgrounds support one another rather than criticize and throw stones. Thanks for all your sharing, and Alexa thanks for your sharing your and your beautiful daughter’s life with the rest of us.
let go of the guilt! if you want to quit, do it. if you want to supplement with formula, do it. do what makes you happy and simone will follow your lead. we mommies have enough to deal with without piling self imposed guilt into the mix. your child will be happy, bright, healthy and fine because she is LOVED…thats the magic ingredient.
Amen, sister! I am so right there with you! My daughter isn’t a preemie, but I’ve been having similar issues with her screaming as if she’s not getting milk, even when I can tell there is milk there, etc. I have to tell you, those promotional cans of formula look SOOOOO good some days! I’m trying not to give her formula, but so often, it seems so appealing to me. And this AM? My pump lost suction. So I’m really up a creek. I was hand pumping at 7am.
I do not have time to read all 78 comments but wanted to tell you something one of my friends said to me as I was breastfeeding both my daughters with incredible difficulty. She said “Food does not equal love.” Breastfeeding doesn’t mean you love your child more than if you bottle feed. And I feel like I can say that since I breastfed both my daughters for a year each… both with an unbelieveable amount of pain and problems. You are doing all you can. Give yourself a break. If you want to keep breastfeeding, go for it. I did and I was glad in the end. But if you just can’t anymore, do what it takes for you and your daughter to survive and try not to feel bad about it. You are doing your best… and that is more than enough.
Hi, just some random assvice. Have you tried feeding her while she’s swaddled? With my twins, I pump and bottle feed and they sometimes get in that thrashing mode. It’s normally when they are overtired, we found that the swaddling made it easier to feed them if they were like that…
dude, i so remember this…and the way i looked at those lactation consultants as if they had three heads. in the end, my son and i kept nursing, but with bottles (which were often if not always formula) in between. and life became sane, and that was better.
i wish you luck finding your balance.
but i AM reading your comments with great interest…thinking there are tips out there that never would’ve occurred to me. :)
I went through the same thing. Not to give assvice, but two things I tried/learnd – At the beginning of a feeding, I would set a timer for 10 minutes. If my son was angelic and nursed wonderfully, I would ignore the timer and he would keep nursing. If the boy and I were having a difficult time, I would stop when the timer went off and switch to the bottle. Using the timer let me off the hook (in my mind, at least) when the breast just wasn’t working, but I never felt like I had given up on breastfeeding (which made me feel horribly guilty).
Also, Metoclopramide and Domperidone do increase milk supply, but both interact poorly with anti-anxiety drugs and anti-depressants and can cause major depression as a side effect, particularly in patients with a history of depression or other issues; they’re worth trying, but be vigilant about watching for signs of depression.
Ah, the lactivists. One La Leche lady told me, when I was dealing with low supply, that I should just nurse my newborn every hour around the clock for a week – at a time when he took forty-five minutes to nurse. Sure, and why don’t I set my hair on fire while I’m at it?
Whatever you choose will be the right decision – and I say default to whatever gives you the most peace and the most sleep. If that’s formula in a bottle, so be it. Simone is going to thrive anyway.
I sure wish my kid would take a bottle, by the way. After our struggles in his early infancy he’s a boob fanatic and thinks demons live in bottles. Which makes feeding him at daycare a whole lotta fun. Hey, at least if Simone ever goes to daycare or has a nanny, you’ll know she’ll take a bottle. Not my guy. Alas.
you just described my breastfeeding situation perfectly, minus the premature part.
you’re doing the right thing, which is whatever is making things easier for the both of you… which is ambiguous, but you’re not here to please le leche league, you’re here really to please Simone and you to a fair-sized extent.
i found the ‘prescriptions’ for milk production success to be totally exhausting. 4 months was it for sam and i, and while i cried about that, i cried less than i did when he was screaming and starving at the breast.
good luck!
Don’t you feel like with all these comments we should start our own website of the “we love breastfeeding but it was damn hard for us” ilk?
I too had this same issue – although mine was related to a breast reduction when I was 19. I’d be able to express milk with my hand and shoot it nearly across the room, but she seemed to be hungry and angry and WTF MOM!?!
So – being in a hormone induced craze – I did exactly what she suggested what with the feeding, then the pumping… let me tell you this about that experience…
it is a miracle I got out of it alive.
I loved b-feeding more than anything and tears ran down my face the ‘last time’ I got to do it. But like you, there were priorities and I tell myself that the formula she got was just fine, and she’s happy, and healthy – and oh so snuggle-ishush.
You’ve done a great job already – no need for guilt, and really its one day at a time anyway. For me the “quitting” took almost a month because one day I’d be “oh let me just try one more day” and the next would be “this sucks”.
email me if you want support.
sorry you are having such a problem– just for comparison– my son Jack was VERY fussy at the breast around that time– screaming, crying, etc. and he was 12 days late and breastfed the whole time
but you need to do what works– for you and your precious little bundle– and a midnight bottle isn’t the end of the world– maybe you can do a combination— of breast and bottle
You’ll be a happier mommy if you switch to bottle feeding. I breast fed and pumped for five months. Two of those months I was going to law school full-time and clerking part-time. It seemed like all I ever did with my son was breast feed or pump.
While we didn’t experience any of the problems you have with feeding Simone, I felt trapped and exhausted. I longed to go out to dinner or to the mall with my husband, our friends and our baby. Instead, it seemed like I was hidden away somewhere breast feeding while everybody else was having fun. I know there are nursing shawls and gear that makes it possible to breast feed in public, but I was too self-conscious to use them.
My time away from work and school was precious and I felt chained to the pump. When I pumped a bottle for my husband to feed our son later, he would frequently complain about the quantity I was able to produce. That makes him sound like an a-hole, which is not at all the case, he was just scared to run out of milk.
We were all getting milk-obsessed and not in a good way.
Switching to bottle-feeding was a life-saver. I became much more relaxed and the baby and his father were happy.
Much of the benefit of breast-feeding comes from the physical closeness between feeder and feedee. You won’t lose that and you’ll have mote time to do other things.
BTW, the five months of breast-feeding seemed to be enough to protect my son against ear infections and give him the other benefits you hear about.
as i know nothing about this whatsoever i am only popping in to say that your baby girls is stunningly beautiful and you have excellent taste in baby accessories
=) I say whatever makes you happier (and baby happier) will make it all work out. Whatever you have to do.
If you need domperidone quickly, I have a bunch of it that I have no use for. It worked like an absolute charm for me but I don’t need it anymore and I would be happy to send it to you. Send me an email if you’re interested.
Adding my voice to the “been there done that” chorus and also to the “you’re doing a great job” chorus.
I ended up being a pumper for 6 months. It was a bitch at times, but in the end I was happy I did it (and sleeping through the night while the man fed the babe was excellent).
I could have written this very post today (oh, except we were never a freak breastfeeding show). My preemie daughter and I have been trying very hard to nurse most feedings during the day. Then today I went to a weight clinic and it turns out she’s only getting 1oz from one side and ZERO oz from the other :( I am so discouraged right now. I want nothing more than to do away with my pump and be able to breast feed full time, but I feel like it’s so much work and giving her a bottle is much easier than struggling through breast feeding :( We’ll continue to try, but I hope there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
feed her breast milk, formula, or pizza and hot wings… she’s not going to remember it when she’s a teenager. and she will find some reason to hate you when she’s 15, no matter what you do.
it’s not as if you’ve done nothing for Simone. you gave her the gift of LIFE, for cripes sake.
You know Simone better than anyone in the entire world – do what you think is best! Also, can’t believe that you started “Lady Cycle” eight weeks out. One of the main reasons I nursed so long was to avoid that, best of luck.
I was in that exact situation once. My son was premature, which firmed my previously flabby resolve to breastfeed. What followed was an unhappy period in which my son cried from hunger nearly as much as I cried from the crushing suspicion that if I couldn’t complete this simple, supposedly natural, aspect of motherhood, I’d fail miserably in the harder challenges to come. Eventually I began pumping and feeding the breastmilk to him in a bottle–and later I wondered why I’d insisted on torturing us both so for long. Breastmilk is breastmilk, whether you administer it via boobie, silicone nipple, or water gun. Simone is getting what she needs either way. Go easy on yourself. The sleep lost as a result of pumping is easier to bear than the sadness brought on by failed nursing session after failed nursing session, in my opinion. Good luck, pretty girls.
AMEN to all the lovely mommies who advocate for sanity. Do what works for you, and Simone will be better off for it! give her that good stuff out of a bottle and reclaim some extra minutes for your balance.
Breastfeeding my first child was probably the hardest thing I’ve ever done. Kudos to you for all your good mommery.
Reading your post did give me a little flashback to a time when my first child was about 6 weeks old and seemed to want to nurse ever 1.5 hours, but would sometimes be crying and fighting. Turns out she was actually TIRED half of those times I was trying to nurse her. I’d be ticked off too if I was trying to go to sleep and someone stuck a pizza in my face. Just a thought…
Hang in there!!! I know it is frustrating and seems absolutely horrible!!! My twins were 10 weeks early and one never got to nurse because of reflux that made her stop breathing so….I pumped after nursing my other one EVERY time because I didn’t want her to get necro.as this happened in the NICU and scared me to death. I had a HORRIBLE transition with my other one off the nipple shield and almost gave up….MANY TIMES!!!!!! trust me!!! I would cry and try EVERYTHING. I was so sore and we just didn’t work well together. I am happy to say that eventually it all settled down…but it was a long journey with giving bottles after feeding. It almost (and I am pregnant with number six…so I do have a little bit of experience) sounds like your little one may be getting too hungry in between feedings. I know u treasure EVERY moment u have not nursing, however, sometimes they have growth spurts that require a little more milk and the baby just gets way too hungry to settle down. Just hang in there!!! I also took Reglan for more milk production. It worked wonders!!! Some doctors don’t know about the miracle it works as it usually is used to help digestion work faster…but it helped my milk supply. I also would drink a beer (my grandmother’s remedie) which I think worked…either because it helped with the milk supply or made me relax a bit more. Anyway, hang in there!!!! It will work out.
Ahhh. The guilt. Yup I remember. It’s what kept me pumping “just one more month” month after month after month until I was crumbled on the floor in tears and Jon threatened to smash that damn pump to put me out of my misery.
You have done such a fabulous job so far. Don’t feel guilty for things that are out of your control. Don’t give up if you aren’t ready yet, but when the time does come don’t beat yourself up.
Oh yeah….I just looked at your whole blog and your pics!! You look fabulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think you should ditch Weight Watchers. It probably just adds more stress to the stressful life of a preemie!!! And yes…I do have PCOS and other the other crap…so…I understand the whole weight bullcrap thing. Just enjoy your baby and give yourself a break!! It is hard being a mom!! Seriously I wouldn’t say you looked great if you really didn’t!!
One of the best gifts you can give your baby, besides breastmilk, is a mother who is as happy and well rested as you can be under the circumstances. You’re almost striking that balance (sounds like mommy needs a bit more rest, but that will come!). You should be proud of yourself!!!
I didn’t read the 100 posts before mine because I need to pump (thrice daily is my limit) but may i suggest getting yourself some Domperidone? It’s the only reason I can nurse my 5.5 week old right now. good luck and don’t let anyone make you feel bad. not even yourself.
oh yeah- and someone said domperidone can cause depression. it doesn’t cross the blood/brain barrier, unlike reglan, which has made many a woman nuts. i’m taking the dom because it’s not known to cause depression…
I didn’t read all of the previous comments so maybe it’s been said already but is it possible that your baby has a reflux condition or something? The reason I ask is because you said sometimes she screams even during a bottle feeding. So maybe it’s not you but how she’s feeling when she’s eating.
Whatever you decide to do, be proud and hold your head up high. You got a preemie to breastfeed!! That does not happen often. You are doing an amazing job and Simone is beautiful. Hang in there!
I breast fed my baby until 12 months (bottles during the day from 5 mnths) and I too found that at about 3-4 mnths it was a bit of a horror story. It directly coincided with the return of my Lady Cycle. After some research I found that the return of the Lady Cycle changes the taste of the milk and also the supply so around that time of the month for a few days he would always be fussy.
It sounds like you are doing a great job. Do NOT feel guilty about giving a bottle here or there. I hope this helps.
Unfortunately, if you don’t pump every time you give a bottle, your supply will decrease because your breasts are essentially skipping that feeding. Avoid artifical nipples including pacifiers. Sleeping with your baby will also help.
Nurse. And nurse. And nurse some more. Every bottle will gradually kill your supply. Have a nursing “holiday” – stay in bed for the weekend topless, baby strapped to your boobs, drink tons of fluids and nurse 24/7. I promise it will help. Breastmilk is so important, especially for a preemie. It will get better.
I stay away from my beloved blogfeed for a day, and look what happens? 107th! 100 and bloody 7th! I knew before even reading the title that it must be about boobs or baby equipment… it does seem to bring out the inner guru in us all.
So sorry the feeds are sometimes going a bit tits-up, no pun intended. Babies are just contrary little buggers. My 3lb 12ozer fed like a demon up until he hit 10 months a fortnight back, and since then he looks like a helicopter in trouble when attached to the breast. To add to my woes, he has discovered that when Mummy is all sleepy during the sparrow-fart-feed, he can sneak a little paw over to the other nipple and Twwwaannnnnggg! Ouchie.
I just had to chime in. I nearly lost my sanity breastfeeding, between a poor latch and lacerated nipples, and the only reason I kept it up was because I had a twisted notion of what I SHOULD be doing as a “good” mom. Do what you feel is best–I truly believe a happy mom helps to make a happy baby. You are her parent, you love her, and no one else can decide what’s best for her. Feel proud for how well you’ve already done.
A couple of suggestions, one of which I think someone already mentioned — try expressing a little before Simone latches. Babies are all about instant gratification, and she may be frustrated by even the small delay of let-down.
I don’t think anyone’s mentioned this one, and it may sound a little strange, but I highly recommend skin-to-skin contact when nursing a fussy baby. Nude (well, possibly diapered) baby, nude mummy, at least where the baby comes in contact with you. We didn’t evolve wearing onesies, and that physical, animal contact may be what Simone (and you!) needs.
Finally, even if you do decide to rely primarily on formula/pumping (no shame in that!!), there’s no need to cut out breastfeeding entirely. It’s not just about getting Simone fed — it’s about that physical closeness and comfort. If you’re not worrying about it being her primary source of nourishment, it may become much more pleasant for you both.
Good luck!
Ditto what everyone else has said about doing what’s right for you. That’s got to come first.
My supply dropped at 5 months, the *only* reason I made it to a year was Domperidone. That stuff rocks. My supply wasn’t superhuge or amazing on it but it was enough to get by and build up a little freezer stash.
But whatever you choose, know that it’s the right thing.
Hugs,
Liz
Talk to your doctor about this one (like as if you haven’t called three times today already!).
My milk supply dwindled to a few drops at three months with my second child. I cried and felt deathly guilty, figuring that he preferred the speedy bottled breastmilk to the naturally delivered type to the point where he refused the breast.
HA! I thought. Once he hits puberty he’ll regret all the times he had free access to boobs and rejected them!
Whatever, the kid needed to eat so I resorted to formula.
He did just fine. He’s 13 now and healthy as can be. And probably longs for boobies.
Hello,
I saw your post and thought I might add my two cents:
You might want to try the Medela Supplemental Nursing System with your pumped breast milk.
I am nursing and my partner nursed our first daughter. She missed the nursing and it has allowed her to get the bonding, while having the baby on the boob – getting milk.
Typically, I pump my milk and then put it in the nursing system. There are tubes that run along side your nipple and the baby sucks on them like she would normally and she gets milk.
It might cut down on her frustration, your frustation – and she’s nursing! Plus, she might get the occassional drop or two from your nipple.
Hope this is helpful and you’ve done a great job thus far!
Shawna
Hi Alexa –
I had experiences similiar to what Uberimma described in her comments. My milk supply wasn’t all that great with my first son and sometimes he would completely freak out when I tried to nurse him. My doc said that babies can go from “just a little hungry” to “OH MY GOD I’M GOING TO DIE FROM STARVATION” in like 2 seconds – or something crazy like that. Blame it on the walnut-sized tummy. So what was probably happening with my son was that he was just SO HUNGRY by the time he started nursing that his tummy hurt and that’s what got him riled up and made the entire nursing session spiral down the shitter. To avoid the freak outs I started feeding him just a little bit earlier than I had been to keep him from slipping into the “I’m starving to death” stage of hunger. It seemed to work and he was much more patient and willing to “work” for his food because he wasn’t so ravenous in the first place.
If you do continue to nurse Simone and make it past this stage then you get to look forward to when you can’t seem to keep her latched on because she’s too busy checking things out – that’s frustrating too. It’s always something. But one thing is for certain – you are a great mom and you have done a tremendous job. When the time is right to move on from nursing, you will know and Simone will be okay. You just need to do what is right and comfortable for both of you. Good luck and keep on enjoying your time together no matter what.
Oh yeah – I forgot to mention that I’m loving the pics of Simone and her snazzy little outfits- so dang cute!
A domperidone tip that saved me (if you decide to try it): Start slow. The only side affect I got even a little bit (other than a vastly improved milk supply) was a bit of a headache. So I started with a half tablet, then in a couple of days I increased to a whole, then on up until I was taking enough to see a big (amazing) boost in output. I only ever needed half the recommended dosage to get where I wanted to be, so it’s worth it to experiment and find out what works for you.
My daughter got half formula and half breastmilk until four months, when we realized that she was allergic to cow’s milk (and soy made her sick as well), so that was my impetus into boosting my supply (and I remember with great clarity the escalating guilt/panic surrounding the scramble to fix this). We ended up ditching the formula eventually (with the help of dom) and nursed well into toddlerhood.
Like everyone says, you are a fantastic mom with great instincts, and what ever you decide is best for Simone – IS best for Simone…..
Kathryn
I’m going to share my story:
Gabriel was born mad. And he spent most of his infancy REFUSING TO NURSE. Most of those fussy babies? They can be soothed with food. Not mine. And it’s not that I’m a breastfeeding nazi. Lord knows if the child would have taken a bottle I would have given it to him. He just wouldn’t. Eat. And then that would make him mad, because he was hungry.
Anyways, I didn’t much have a choice in the whole thing because he wouldn’t take a bottle either, so I just locked myself in my apartment and spent the first 4-6 months of his life stealing myself for the impending scream-fest every time he needed to eat. And then at 6 months, things started to work out, and he nursed like a regular little baby, and I breastfed him happily until he was one and a half.
But I know that most people have a kid who will at least take a bottle to stop the screaming, so they have an option of not sticking it out. And if I had that option, I probably wouldn’t have stuck it out either. So there you go. There was pretty much no point besides this: I commiserate.
It seems like you have gotten a lot of great advice, from what I had time to skim (tough to read with an 18-month-old).
In case anyone has not mentioned it (and you may have already done this anyway) – do you give her the bottle and nurse her in the same position? Sometimes babies are very particular about the position, especially if there is something touching (or not touching) the back of their heads.
This may or may not do you any good but I thought I would mention it.
Good luck mama! You will do what is right for you and your baby no matter what you decide.
I agree that you shouldn’t guilt yourself out over it–where’s the pastoral nursing bliss in that?
But before you throw in the towel on nursing entirely, I have a suggestion: Let her take the edge off her hunger with the bottle, then just nurse for fun afterwards. Maybe when she’s less impatient she’ll enjoy it (and you will too) and maybe your supply will go back up after a while.
Well, my favorite topic. Yes, it’s hard. I used the nipple shield and had no intention of getting rid of it, yet, as they say, one day you can’t find it or the cat gets it and you go on your merry way without it-cool. Our baby was what you’d call a nipper-napper, very frustrating. My hubby would give her a bottle of pumped breastmilk after almost every feeding and YES, I pumped after every time of nursing her. (I think that we saw the same LCs!) I would time my nursing sessions! And they were usually between 7-15 minutes long but we could always get her to drink at least a few more ounces from a bottle. You know, breastfeeding is a huge commitment and it’s totally worth it. Now that I’m not doing it (she weaned herself at 14 months) I miss it. And now she’s two and my husband and I still give each other updates about what/how much she ate! I’m sorry you got your period already, that sucks. Keep on, you’re doing fine and she’s thriving, it’s supposed to be this way! As my wise friend Jen says, “the first year is the hardest.”
My son was in the nicu and so I began not by breastfeeding him but by pumping and supplementing his formula feedings with my pumped breastmilk. My supply just wasn’t what it needed to be and so the suggestion was exclusively breastfeed, use no formula at all. Yea, brilliant, those two days were the worst two days of my life. My child was hungry and angry and so I was I. The next advice was the same you got, pump after every feeding. I did that for over a month and then just couldn’t take it anymore. My supply wasn’t increasing at all and worse, my entire day was feed the baby, go pump, clean up, change the baby, oh, time to feed the baby again. I dreaded the pumping and wasn’t sleeping ever because I had to pump after the night feedings as well. I finally just stopped and although I missed the feeding sessions I was glad that I stopped. If I’m blessed with another child I’m not certain that I will even try breastfeeding.
This may be total assvicery, and you’ve already got more comments than you (or I) can try to read, but I can’t let this post go without saying that she might (might, maybe, possibly) be experiencing acid reflux. I know it’s terribly overdiagnosed, but aren’t preemies more susceptible?
My kids both had it and the experience with my firstborn was horrible because my first pediatrician and I were both so reluctant to think that it was GERD. He acted much like Simone starting at around 2 months old. He was fine during most feedings, but about once every 1-2 days, he’d just lose his shit completely if I tried to nurse him. Flailing madly, screaming, it was horrible. We called it “attack of the killer boob” because he acted like the very thought of nursing (even if it had been 4-5 hours since he’d last been willing to take anything) was absolutely terrifying. At that point in the progression, he’d do better with a bottle in general.
Then about a month later, it was about half of the feedings of the day and a month after that it was almost every feeding (whether by bottle or by breast) unless it was the middle of the night and he was particularly relaxed. By about five months old, he was barely taking anything from any source and was dropping weight curves. I finally talked to a pediatric GI specialist who worked him up to the maximum dose of Zantac and within a few weeks he was eating and putting weight back on.
With my daughter, we knew what to watch for and we were able to get her on prevacid at around two months after she showed symptoms that persisted past the six-week (adjusted age) peak of fussiness that almost all babies experience.
I know the last thing you need is more doctors to deal with, but a work-up with a reflux test isn’t even necessary because Zantac is considered so safe.
Anyway, assvice finished!
Good luck!
Hi Alexa,
My sister got me reading your blog and I’ve been stalking you for quite a while now! I finally got up the nerve to leave this comment and I just want to say two things:
1) You are a brilliant writer, I love your style and wish my blog was half as sparkly and witty. Your post on how fast time flies got me all teary. Not that it’s too hard to do that in my hormone-addled state, but still :)
2) The mantra that I’ve been repeating over and over since my daughter was born eight months ago: what is good for Mama is good for baby. Done. Breast feeding is great, but if it doesn’t work for you, it’s not going to work for anyone.
I wish you so much success with darling Simone and lots of good sleep. (It will come again, truly it will). We’re rooting for you guys up here in Canada!
I couldn’t read all of the (lovely) comments, so maybe I am repeating, but I was gonna say that if she also screams at the bottle, it might be a bit of reflux. And your supply might still be ok – it’s very common to think that supply is nosediving after a few months, because the body adjusts and there is no more leaking or engorgement. Just a thought. Either way, you are doing a fantastic job, please keep the guilt at bay! It sounds like either way you will find what works best for you and your gorgeous Simone.
I’m not going to read through all the postings but, I had a similar experience to you and I have preemie twins right now. Please read my post http://babyonbored.blogspot.com/2008/05/im-gonna-let-it-fly.html to see how strongly I feel about this topic. It’s tough and makes you hormonal to give up the actual breast feeding but it will save your sanity to not pump and breast feed! You’ve been through enough!!!
I am also not going to read through all the comments, but I wanted to let you know that I appreciate where you are coming from. My son was born at 31 weeks (in March) and it was two full months before I was able to breastfeed him directly. Now we are doing it, with the help of a nipple shield, but it is still mighty frustrating. We have to give him a couple of bottles a day with fortified breast milk per the pediatrician. I feel like things are going better than they were (http://mdwestmom.blogspot.com/2008/05/breast-intentions.html) but I think at least once each day about having to give it up. You may have already made up your mind, but ultimately I think you have to do what makes the most sense for your family and that includes what is best for YOU. You’ve already done so much, and nothing will take that away.
I’ve been thinking of you, can’t remember how I found you blog, but our little ones has overlapping time in the NICU. I’m glad Simone is home with you now. Good luck to you.
Oh, dude. I so very much hated breastfeeding. I couldn’t nurse my first (turns out he has sensory issues. Of the major variety) and I nursed my second while hating every minute of it.
Good luck, Alexa. You’ve kicked ass and taken names. Don’t forget that.
You know.. I finally went with the whole “if it works, it works, I’m not going to kill myself over it”.
I was very uneducated about bf’ing with my first two(that were born at 32 weeks and 30 weeks, respectively) and I tried pumping but wasn’t anywhere near taking care of myself the way I should have. It wasn’t until my 3rd came along(my only full termer) did I discover more about breastfeeding and I was beyond determined to make it work. At a month, when it still was killing me and I’d sit and cry through every feeding, I made the HUGE mistake of posting my frustration on a message board. While some ladies were supportive, there were others that made me feel horrible about wanting to stop. Not like I didn’t have enough guilt over it not working already but those women just made me feel worthless and told me I wasn’t trying hard enough(despite the consant nursing and pumping and having to put up with a few very rude LC’s and having not even been SPOKEN to by an LC before I left the hospital with him-even though I requested to talk to one several times in my day and a half long stay).
I eventually gave up regardless and continued to feel guilty about that decision until said baby was EIGHT months old. And not just “d*mn I really wish it would’ve worked out” but even trying to re-lactate at four months.
When my next child came along, I promised myself that I wouldn’t beat myself up if it wasn’t working out. She was born 5 weeks early and the LC brought in the nipple shield. Why oh why oh why did NONE of the people I’d talked to with my 3rd tell me about that? I had a horrible time getting my daughter to nurse without it after awhile, but it did get her to nurse and we were able to go until 6 months-partially, no matter what I did I could never get a decent supply and I did try everything aside from medication(which my doc wasn’t keen on giving me due to my history of depression, and I wasn’t keen on taking if I wasn’t dying from some life threatening illness… I’m like that with most meds. I do say *most* meds). I nursed her constantly, then would have to supplement her(either ebm or formula if I was out of the other)after almost EVERY feeding. Then I would pump. I pumped at least 6-8 times a day AND nursed her, AND took Fenugreek, Mother’s Milk tea, oatmeal, juice, water, tried to eat perfectly…and… I had 3 other kids to take care of. So when you say you think they’re crazy for suggesting that you pump after every feeding, nurse and then pump some more.. believe me I know what that’s like and it really takes a toll on you(not to mention cleaning the pumping equipment a gajillion and one times a freaking day, plus bottles….tell me… how is THAT convenient?).
With my last(and final) child, I have to be honest that I hemmed and hawed over it for my entire pregnancy. When she was born 8 weeks early, there was no question and I requested a pump within a half hour of being in my room after my c-section(of course I waited longer to actually pump though.. I just wanted it there). When my daughter came home, I’d been fitted with a nipple shield. She could latch on but just wasn’t good at it and with (by this time) Four other children to take care of, the nursing sessions were killing me and one day, I was Literally walking in circles because I was so frustrated, tired, upset, tired and I just didn’t know what the right thing to do was anymore. I agonized over whether to quit and just took it one feeding at a time. Then…when my supply took a nose dive because I was exclusively pumping, I had a health issue come up that required me to be on several different meds and that was that. I refused to pump for however long I was going to be on those meds(including a narcotic, and two heavy anti-biotics) just to have to dump my precious milk down the sink every time. I was already struggling with it and that was the icing on the cake. And, in the long run.. the health issue that I had was one that I continue to have pop up. The initial onset and requirement of medication ended up dragging out and lasted over a month. Looking back, quitting pumping was the best thing I could’ve done… pumping for a month just to throw all of that milk out? You have to be crazy… I never would’ve made it. All of that work just to dump it out? Screw that.
I have no idea what my point is. But breastfeeding is probably one of the biggest challenges I’ve had in motherhood(being a mom to 4 preemies was THE biggest) and I can look back at least and say that I really did try my hardest, but it just didn’t work for me. And I finally reached a point where I really don’t give a rat’s ass who has a problem with it. Good for anyone that it works for and don’t have a lot of issues to overcome with it… but I would NEVER put anyone down for not sticking with it because I know that it’s HARD work. And anyone that chooses to not breastfeed at all…I see nothing wrong with that. It’s THEIR boobs and if they’re uncomfortable with it, who is ANYONE to go out of their way to make them feel bad about their decision? I’m a firm believer that a woman needs to have that desire to nurse… if they don’t, they very well might be miserable- especially from people forcing it upon them and making them feel bad for not wanting to do it.
Keep on truckin’ Alexa. You have done such a wonderful job thus far, and I hope that you’re able to continue with it for as long as you can… IF you want to. And.. that guilt thing? I think it can’t be helped sometimes even when you’ve gone above and beyond. We’re mothers and we want nothing but the best for our kids. The guilt just proves how much you love her and want the best for her.
And, with that, my novel is complete ;). Sorry for the hijack.
Holy crapoly that was REALLY long! Sorry!!
Alexa,
My pumping five times a day is done out of pure guilt. She’s a difficult bfeeder (she nibbles, looks away…nibbles, lookes away…) so my milk is no longer a direct flight.
Of course telling you to drop the guilt would clearly be hypocritical, as I haven’t been able to do that myself.
My way of cutting myself a little break is to give her formula for the middle of the night feedings. It gives me peace. If my supply nosedives I know that she’s going to get a formula that works for her and I don’t have to obsess so much about the contents of my milk stash.
Whatever you find yourself doing just know that there are many like you doing the guilt dance.
Hi, Alexa(and to Miss Simone doubtless swinging nearby)–
With the small print at the bottom of the screen stating that breastmilk is obviously “best,” and I would never discourage you from doing it, I’d like to add some encouragement…:
*formula is not satan’s juice.
*superior nutrition has little too do with superior mothering, and sometimes the two are in conflict.
*I am the mother of a 1.5 lb 24 weeker. She is adopted and was exclusively formula fed(btw don’t get me started on how much I was judged for not attempting to adoptive breast feed. sometimes by strangers. but that’s a whole other story).
This daughter o’ mine is now approaching the “actual age” of 2, 19 months adj. She is walking, running, talking in sentences, even drawing holding the pen “correctly”(ie like an adult. we have no idea where she picked this up as we would’ve never dreamed of trying to teach a toddler this). Anyway, she has never been hospitalized. She’s had maybe 3 colds in her life, which required extra neb treatments, and the rest of the times she had fevers corresponded with teething. She’s never had a single ear infection.
I tell you this not to in any way brag, because believe me I know how easily things could’ve been different. I also don’t tell you this as argument against studies or stats, but just to say– Hey! Look over here! Bonded, happy, attached, intelligent kiddo with no ear infections who was a micropreemie and exclusively formula-fed.
I really hope this works out the way you’d like it to– but the most important things are already there– you’ve had them covered from day one.
First off, I only read the first few comments so sorry if I repeat.
I went through the same thing with my son (except that he was not a champion eater while in the NICU).
I remember the two of us crying and no one in my family understanding why I was “forcing” this bf thing. I finally came to a place where we tried to breastfeed. If it was a good day and he wanted to nurse, then we would. If it wasn’t a great day, we would try for a few minutes and then go to a bottle.
I was lucky enough to have tons of milk stored up in the freezer so that he subsisted on breastmilk long after I was no longer producing. We also did the fenugreek and I got a prescription for reglan from my doc becasue it is supposed to increase supply.
The important thing is that you’ve tried what YOU wanted to do. Do your best but don’t let it take over your life and ruin your days.
I always got a big laugh over the advice to lock myself in a room with a bunch of magazines and my child and then just nurse, nurse, nurse. Those people have more patience and sanity than I can claim. Don’t let yourself get too overwhelmed by it. It feels like the whole world right now, but it’s really a small point in Simone’s life. Good luck!!
I know this is an older post but I just wanted to comment that I pumped for my 27 weeker for 3 months and it SUCKED (did the whole feeding then pumping thing). I finally gave myself permission to quit and life got a whole lot easier.
By the way, I posted this to you before but I also had IVF twins but lost one at birth. I fully believe all the stress and grief affected my supply as well. This could be the same in your case, maybe?