Trying to lose weight is tricky for a feminist. I don’t mean that reading Jezebel somehow causes you to retain calories, but rather that it can be hard not to feel a bit defensive, as if you are abandoning the sisterhood by pursuing a more defined waistline. “I’m trying to lose weight” ends up followed by “…healthily of course—I mean I’m trying to eat better and exercise and yes, I do want to be smaller, but not because I think I have to be a size two—there are plenty of strong, fit, larger women I’d be happy to look like (not that there is anything wrong with being an UN-fit larger woman, and not that I hate my body and need to resemble someone else), and women don’t have to be a certain size to be appealing (not that being appealing is all that important, or that women should be judged by whether or not they appeal to some arbitrary standard of beauty), and anyway…I’ll have the salmon. Sauce on the side.”
I’ve been thinking about it, though, and the more I think about it, the more this semi-shamefaced approach to weight loss annoys me. The idea that women who wish to lose weight do so only because they’ve been brainwashed by the patriarchy is insulting. Surely proponents of said idea are not suggesting these women are simply too dull-witted to realize they’ve been had by clever marketing departments? After all, it is hard to argue that we are the intellectual equals of men whilst simultaneously denigrating our decision-making abilities.
Additionally, I find the notion that by wanting leaner bodies we are betraying some vague ideal of acceptance to be, to put it bluntly, bullshit. Being overweight isn’t particularly healthy, but the fact that I would like to be thinner is not an endorsement of the position that all women should have thighs like chopsticks. Am I less of a feminist because I want to be able to find my abdominal muscles or wear jeans without my flesh mutinously surging over the waistband? Isn’t the pigeonholing of women into compartments labeled “smart” or “pretty,” “career woman” or “mother,” “feminist” or “fond of shoes,” getting a wee bit old?
A few weeks ago, we had a visit from a home care nurse. After she had drawn Simone’s blood, she opened a band-aid and let out a little moan.
“Oh, no,” she said, “I’m so sorry!”
I leaned in to see, wondering whether she had accidentally grabbed a package of MRSA-brand bandages by mistake.
But no.
“It’s Spiderman,” she sighed, “I thought I’d brought you Barbie.”
I looked at my bald, seven-pound daughter. Oddly enough, she seemed unconcerned.
“Spiderman’s better than Barbie,” I said, wondering if I was really having this conversation with a health care professional.
The nurse laughed, “Your husband would prefer it?”
(Actually, my husband might, seeing as Mary Jane was responsible for his sexual awakening some twenty-plus years ago).
“No,” I said, “I would.”
Frankly, I don’t care if Simone wears a Barbie band-aid. She is, after all, an infant. But the relentless gender-identification of babies does make me want to vomit, preferably all over a spangled “DIVA!” onesie. When she was first big enough to wear clothes, Simone’s best-fitting sleeper was from the gender-neutral section at Gymboree. It was yellow, and featured tiny trees and dogs, some playing frisbee, surrounded by the words “dig,” “sniff,” and “bark.” The boy’s section carried an identical sleeper in blue.
The pink version in the girl’s section, however, was different, printed with the words “pretty pup” and pictures of a girl dog receiving a flower from a male suitor. If you’re wondering how I could tell the sexes of these dogs without seeing their undercarriages, it was simple: the girl dog was a white poodle with poofy hair and a bow on top.
Despite the perfect fit, I stuck to the yellow model, as just seeing the disparity between the other two made my skin crawl. But I don’t think putting Simone in a jumper covered with flowers is dooming her to a life of vacuuming in pearls. She wears quite a bit of pink, and the occasional dress—along with a set of blue nautical-themed onesies from the boy’s section. When she’s old enough to choose her clothes she can wear whatever she damn well pleases. It isn’t important that she doesn’t wear a Barbie band-aid, merely that she doesn’t think she has to.
When I was little, my favorite television show was Donna Reed, and my parents were terrified that I would grow up into Alexa P. Keaton, Phyllis Schlafly acolyte and 50s throwback. But of course while the messages our children receive from the media are influential, much more influential is imparting the ability to view these messages critically. I would hope that if Simone struggles with her weight as an adult, she will be able to distinguish dissatisfaction with her body from hate of it. Wanting to change your appearance and taking healthy steps to do so is not the same as fasting your way into a pencil skirt. And as for my recently-embarked-upon quest for a less lumpy silhouette, one reader expressed surprise, and asked whether this is what clever, educated women do in America. I suppose to that I would say that if she means making the choice to take charge of our health and care for our bodies, even if it means eschewing bacon, then yes. Yes it is.


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Excellently said! I’d applaud you, but I have a mutinous flesh problem, and chewing (what were those extra letters for up there?) all this bacon is hard to manage at the same time….
My favourite television shows when a highly- impressionable youngster were The A Team and the Dukes of Hazzard. Why my tyres spend any time at all touching the road these days is consequently a mystery to me.
If only the eating habits of a lifetime were as easy to step away from as my childhood impressions of safe driving.
You are so smart. I like that about you.
Very well said, Alexa!
You cleverly put in words my uneasiness with this feminist/weight loss issue- I am so grateful.
Well said.
Lily
Well put! I started my weight loss (sorry, getting rid of weight – usually when you lose something you try and find it again) program because I wanted to feel good about myself, not because of what society dictates. And fitting into my clothes and not having flab hanging over my pants makes me feel good. And I have more energy, which is always a good thing!
I have not reached my goal yet but slow is better. Healthy living is clearly the best way to lose weight.
Re the gender thing, I did buy a lot of pink things for my daughter but she also wore blue as well. If she had lived I would have let her wear whatever she felt comfortable in. My sister refused to wear a dress most of her childhood and is no worse off for it now.
Gatito recently started saying, “Pink is for girls!” and it’s making me crazy. He hasn’t even started school yet, so who told him that? Even when he goes to choose his jelly bean reward for potty training, he says that the pink ones are for his nanny. WTF?
Oh dear. My ‘surprise’ was that you would want to join weight watchers so soon after giving birth and in the context of establishing & maintaining breast feeding. Of course losing weight can be a healthy choice. Australia has just been announced to have the most obese population in the world- I always thought that was America’s particular speciality, but no we have taken the lead! I agree weight loss is a feminist issue but I was referring to a different issue than the one you have outlined. I think there is enormous pressure on women to return to their girlish figures as soon as possible after birth.
My surprise was that rather than allowing your body to adjust in its own time and focussing on eating the best possible foods for breast feeding you would choose to diet. Maybe I sound like a full on breast feeding fanatic & maybe that’s what I am. Maybe I don’t understand what weight watchers has to offer. Probably I don’t. I do think that as women we need to take charge of our health. I’m just not always convinced of the validity of the ‘health’ messages we receive.
I’m currently on a *Points* journey myself. Being healthy and strong is good, no matter your gender.
Amen, Sister!
Nice post. I’m finding the Paul McKenna thing is working for me both in terms of body shape acceptance and in terms of losing weight – and my first big motivation to lose weight was a (non-pregnant) mild blood sugar issue. I think I felt more OK, and more motivated, when losing weight because of a health issue than because of a body image issue.
I like your juxtaposition of the weight issue and the pink issue, because it highlights how strangely extreme the options are for negotiating gender at the moment and how hard it is to just feel comfortable in your body and try to live healthily and happily without getting caught up in a cultural tug-of-war. I changed my name when I got married, and that brings up some of the same issues – what’s your take on that one? (I did hesitate, because I worried it would send a message of ‘I am not a feminist’, but I wanted to have the same name as my husband and my hoped-for children; also my husband’s previous wife didn’t take his name and quite quickly dumped him, so I wanted to show him I really meant it.)
I’m at a point where my YDD (3) wants to wear dresses. So many people want to talk her out of them and into pants or ‘boyish’ clothes but I think it’s making her more steadfast in her choice! If they’d shut up once in awhile she’d wear something else just because it was ‘next’! I don’t push dresses, I can work with most anything – but she LOVES them! Yes, at 3 yrs old it seems to be ‘set’! Oh, and she wore Dalmations bandaids the last time she had one!
I am constantly torn between not wanting to impart any gender stereotypes on my daughter, wanting people to know she’s a girl (without hair as she may be), and oooo look at the HOT PINK! My parents pushed gender neutral on me to the point that I want to rebel in pink and flowers sometimes, so I don’t want to do that either. But I want her to know how to fix her toilet, assemble something from Ikea, and buy a new car on her own. I don’t like Barbie, but more from a mass marketing of an out of date feminine ideal (same thing with those f-in princesses) than from a generic gender sterotype. Spiderman is acceptable because its a good character, female characters seem to be nothing more than helpless in a pretty dress. However, I’d rather a plain bandaid so that she can make her own choices and be her own woman rather than a marketers pawn.
Oh, and go healthy! My mom is fat and she always justified it with feminism, while I just wanted to make sure she was around as long as possible so I could embarass her more. I’m fat too, but its not about feminism, I’m just lazy (and suffering from nasty hormone issues).
YES!
That is all.
My 3 year old has a LOVE for princesses, I do mean LOVE. He wants to be one, he wants to kiss one, he wants to dress like one…all of which is fine by me although Belle at Disneyland was a little taken back by his desire to get to first base. He has worn an old flouncy maternity top, an old Xmas tree skirt & a 20 year old prom dress to be a princess…I think my husband died a little when he saw the prom dress. I like his young mind that doesn’t know that most boys don’t wear dresses. He becomes one bc he wants to & that is so simple & beautiful & perfect!
I think you have put it well. Being healthy and fit and able to wear whatever we want are feminist issues. Do be patient with yourself – it took 9 months to put the weight on and it will take a while to come off, breastfeeding or no. I breastfed all of my kids and I’m one of those women who just didn’t lose all the weight until I was able to be a lot more active when they were bigger. Everyone’s metabolism is different.
When my daughters were little they were really into girly clothing, fancy dresses and PINK. Now one is in high school and one in college and they both wear a mix of things traditionally feminine and not and more importantly don’t feel bound by stupid ideas about what constitutes proper girl roles. So don’t assume the little kid ideas are what prevails.
I feel like we’ve talked about this before, but I’m right behind you. I agree with ALL of it. ALL OF IT. Raising girls, wanting to be healthy — all of it.
Instead of being about choice, and about being conscious about those choices, decisions and lessons we teach our daughters, feminism has become a set of fake rules that really equate to nothing without thought or consideration.
I’m sick and tired of people clinging to outdated notions of feminism (god forbid you change your name, lose weight or shave) and implying that anyone who doesn’t abide by those rules is a failure.
Such bullshit.
I always laughed because, of course, I did not have 9 months to put weight on.
More like 7 months.
It will come. I’ve heard wonderful things about the Weight Watchers system for nursing mothers. I know of quite a few women who have gotten their weight into a healthy range while protecting their milk supply.
Nice thoughts. I am doing my darndest to raise a little feminist. Right now my biggest battle is waged against those damn Disney princesses.
All I want to know is…how can you think and write so critically when you have a baby in the house?
Yes!
Alexa, you said it all so well. Losing weight has many health benefits and of course, everyone has a right to be happy about how they look. My husband is obsessed with losing his pot belly (I think it’s cute) but he doesn’t worry that it’s affecting his job or how people treat him in stores or on the train. That’s where it is different for women. But you’re right, as intelligent people we can choose to lose weight or exercise or not, not because of society but because of ourselves.
And I have to say, Simone was 7 lbs a few weeks ago? Wow! How big is she now?
nice.
I started seeing my friends in a new light when I opened their gifts for our 5.6 lb preemie girl. Take, for example, the tiniest string bikini I have ever seen. In blue, because “I know you hate pink things!”
Well said/written! My only concern is that in the life of any youngling, the influx of marketing and human trait of “I want that!” far proceeds the development of capacity for critical thought.
So, do I appear the arbitrary parent, “No, you can’t have it, because the people who want to sell it to you are eeeevil! (A.K.A. I said so)” or give in and hope to undo the early programming with much parental guidance when the child is speaking in and understanding complete sentences?
Well said, as always, Alexa! I am one of those “lucky” few who naturally maintain a societally-pleasing shape with (I would say little, but that would imply at least SOME and I don’t want to be lying, here) no particular diet or exercise except that I don’t eat slices of butter on crackers (I KNOW, RIGHT? But my husband actually does this. Euch!) and have a handy-dandy GI response to stress that gets RIGHT ON RID OF any extra pounds I may start to accumulate from time to time. I mean, I’m a size eight, but I happen to think an eight is just about perfect for my height (just over 5’6) and build, and am always shocked when people refer to this as a “larger” size because I’ve gone as far down as a loose six as an adult in times of stress and thought I looked HORRIBLE–gaunt, baggy, fragile, asexual. My husband (not that I care what he thinks, for the record) seems to prefer me scrawny like that but TOO BAD, PAL–he only sees that side of me after a hospitalization or something. Personally (HUGE overshare ahead!) I used to date girls back in the day and I always liked someone whose hipbones wouldn’t put anyone’s eye out, who felt nice to snuggle up to rather than looked fabulous playing frisbee in a bikini…so it is, in a way, hard for me to reconcile people making those half-complimentary, half-hateful remarks in dressing rooms of “oh, you could just wear ANYTHING and look good, I wish I had it that easy!” I want to grab them and say “YOU CAN HAVE MY BODY, IT IS SICK AND BROKEN AND UNRELIABLE–I WOULD GIVE ANYTHING TO BE YOUR SIZE FOURTEEN, AND HAVE MY SKIN NOT SLIP OFF OF ME BECAUSE OF FAULTY COLLAGEN FIBERS, AND NOT HAVE TO WORRYING ABOUT MOST LIKELY DYING BEFORE FIFTY.” Sometimes I feel like I should wear a t-shirt, something along the lines of “I am a feminist. I would be a fat feminist except that I am sick. If you offer jokingly to trade bodies with me and take on my illness I will smack you in the face with my handbag and run home, crying.” It’s never easy, is it? And baby girl clothes? Ugh.
I totally, completely agree with you. I think the equating of health with bowing to media/social pressure is asinine. When you’re healthy, YOU feel better. When your clothes fit, YOU want to do more things, because YOU feel more confident, because YOU like the way you look. It’s one of those “I am woman, hear me roar things”, and it makes not one whit of difference if any other person in the world notices.
In fact, I honestly believe that getting healthy (which does NOT mean getting pin thin) is one of the ONLY pure “just for you” things that is left. A good piece of writing begs to be read. A great song begs to be heard. A beautiful painting begs to be seen. But working to make your body feel the way you know it should; the way you know you feel better? It doesn’t matter if anyone else notices. It’s enough that you feel awesome.
I applaud you, for your efforts and for this post.
Carbon:
Excellent point. Obviously there are some things that I simply will not buy for Simone, however much she might like them (um, anything issuing from the execrable Bratz franchise, for instance). I just mean that I will try to remember that in most cases, providing alternatives is more important than controlling access.
Awesome post Alexa. You can’t win on either side, it seems, so you might as well go with what is best for you (and your health).
My toddler is in full on gender identification stage – meaning she can only wear pink sundresses because everything else is for boys (shudder to think). About once a week I can sneak in another color, but it still has to be a dress. It really doesn’t bother me too much, because I am pretty sure it will pass, but I have had several moms comment that they would “never” dress their girls in pink. Never? Is it that bad? As you suggest, as long as it does not say something over the top on it, like DIVA!, who cares?
And, the Bratz? Totally suck-filled. Hate them.
But, I love your blog. You rock.
I was an early Feminist,(womans Libber) in the 60′s.
I also was the only nursing mother in the hospital with all 4 of my kids. No coaches, except my mom. Also never worried about weight because I always lost more than I gained, but that isn’t why I’m here to say.
We fought for freedom from being told not to be boyish in actions, or dress. It isn’t feminist not to maintain a healthy body.
I applaud youe post. Now can we send this post to a clothes maker for the more weighty, curvy women. If they could get on board with this, I could buy clothes that fit and are more attractive.
Just, yes. Yes, and some more yes. And I (whispering now) am planning cosmetic surgery to repair damage from 4 pregnancies, 4 sections, 1 botched gall bladder removal and cumulative time of at least 5 years of breastfeeding. And I resist telling other women! Why? Because I’m somehow not “accepting my badges of honor”, or “embracing my maturing self”, or some such nonsense. Bullshit. I gave all my youth, gratefully, for the last 13 years to these wonderful children, and if we can afford to get back a bit of my old body, after I’ve hit the WEIGHT AT WHICH I FEEL BEST, then dammit, we’re doing it. And don’t tell me I’m buying into anything. I’m doing this for ME. Because I WANT TO.
There. ENOUGH CAPS ALREADY!!!
That was spot on! I’ve been having a hard time finding the right words and you said it perfectly. Simone is a lucky girl to have you for a mother.
Simply: You go girl!
Have you noticed, though, that the biggest reactions are not about girls wearing or doing “boy” things, but the opposite? Since having a son, I realize that “boy” things are more and more often considered gender-neutral, but “girl” things are strictly off-limits for boys. (E.g., do you think if you had a boy, you’d put him in anything from the girls department? I did a little bit when mine was an infant, but in a very self-conscious and self-righteous way. )
I loved your preamble to the salmon order, and you are so right. (Nobody better try to steal your arguments and use them in defense of breast augmentation, however …)
I’ve face a lot of the same conflict with mothering a daughter. Having been a mother to a boy for 11 years before having a daughter, I found the girly clothes with the “princess” themes annoying and deliberately avoided them. Now that she’s old enough, she often chooses those clothes. And while I know it kinda defeats the point, I sometimes say, “No.” Mainly because it ANNOYS ME. Hehe.
She wanted Dora sheets for her bed, which I was fine with because I kinda love Dora, but I also bought her Diego sheets. She loves them too.
I think I just try to expose her to everything, and I often discourage the pink choices she makes simply because it makes me crazy.
She is currently sporting a Scooby Doo bandaid on her knee, by the way.
omg. I loved the Donna Reed Show too!! Why is it not still on?
Bravo! I wholeheartedly agree with you. I never understood why some women persecute members of their own sex because they choose certain things that “go against” the feminist notion of a modern woman. Isn’t being a feminist really just about the right to choose? And isn’t one of those choices taking care of themselves? How about being a stay-at-home mom? We need to get over ourselves and realize that no matter what choices we make, we should honor those choices because that’s exactly what gives us power- the choice.
I cried during my first visit to Macy’s baby department, at six months pregnant. All the boy-baby clothes had footballs. Or they were camouflage-print. Useful, doncha know, when a baby’s coming under heavy fire in his playpen.
I went home and bought ten million gender-neutral Zutano and Hanna Andersson clothes on the web. It made me poor but at least the kid looks like a baby, not a Special Ops linebacker.
The thing about Dora and Diego that bugs me is that you have this great strong female character, “Dora the Explorer” — and what do they do? Make her male cousin *so much cooler*. HE gets to be a “Rescue Ranger”. Bah.
We’re currently into Curious George bandaids in our house. They seem oddly apropos :)
Oh! Oh! And here is what I also do not understand: Why is pink bad? I mean, of course thinking you MUST wear pink because you are a girl and thus burdened with a lack of clothing choices is bad. But the whole gender-neutral thing introduces this other issue, where to be successful or valid, you must not be too girly.
I’d rather know someone who wears pink every day but has no problem kicking ASS in pink than someone who wears gender-neutral colors because she thinks it’s important not to be identified as overly female. As if there even IS such a thing. It’s just a color, yo.
I SO have a post in me about this, especially in the context of the short-skirted, fishnet-stockinged land of roller derby. Someday.
I love this topic! Thanks for bringing it up. I love your writting so much. I can’t wait to see how Simone grows up!
I love this post because I’m currently struggling with a very different body after this baby—and how do I say that I really really want to be thinner someday like I was before and still be a feminist?
I do get the woman who questioned you because it’s true, women are pressured by society to look perfect right afterwards. Celebrities endlessly trumpeting their instant weight loss after giving birth drive me nuts for example.
That said, I know that Weight Watchers has a breastfeeding moms/post-partum angle on the plan, so it is very different from most diets.
And DoctorMama had a good point about dressing boys in pink. I sometimes do, and lord the comments I get. A doctor we know actually told me I’d give my son a gender identity disorder from the pink blanket he was wrapped in. I mean, WTF?!?
And even if he did switch genders someday, who cares?
People are so stupid.
Honestly, so much of the business about colors kids wear is really about homophobia. Why can’t people just admit that they are trying to control sexuality, which is none of their bloody business?
losing weight is fine– esp after a baby– your body just grew another person– of course you have a little extra hanging around– although if you keep breastfeeding it will eventually fall off– mine did— without any effort on my part besides only have one bowl of ice cream every night as opposed to two!
You’re so on to something here. The link between feminism, the body, and gender identification. I know for me, personally, I have this deep-down feeling that after this baby comes (any minute!), I’ll be ready to lose the weight I have been “holding onto” for like 20 years! Of course, that’s after I get a good start at BFing, of course. I think now that I know how physically challenging it is to be a mother (soon to be of 2 under 2!), I want to be strong and fast for their sake, not just mine. WW nursing program, here i come!
And I dress my 19 mos old daughter in tons of pink mostly b/c she looks adorable in pink b/c she’s very fair. And bald (so the pink SHOULD help tell the world she’s a girl but it doesn’t). But I hate the princess crap–esp the “I am a little princess” stuff that abounds–and I refuse to let her have any of it. Someday, when she’s 4 or so, I know she’ll be into the Disney princesses but it seems sick to have a newborn in a pink “shopaholic” or something else onesie.
Well put, and thank you for saying it. I personally don’t care what people label me as (well, as long as it doesn’t get me arrested), but I am a group exercise instructor at a gym, and I spend some part of the day, 6 days a week, at the gym. I control my weight and take my health seriously, and it IS a little tiring to be labeled as “frivolous” for it.
Alexa! P.! Keaton!
BWA HA HA HA HA!
Yes! This! This post is made of win. As a feminist and and a newly minted fat activist, I couldn’t find the words to express how I felt about weight loss. Thanks for finding them for me!
Exactly! Very well put, Alexa!
Bravo! I had to stand up and clap before I posted this comment. I just returned from a visit with my parents who have never taken care of their health or their weight and are now paying big time for their past mistakes. I want to be FIT and HEALTHY for my kids and my grandkids. I want to be able to travel to see my grandkids and get down on the floor and play with them. I don’t give a rat’s ass how I LOOK – it’s the way I FEEL that matters to me.
I lost 100lbs on Weight Watchers. Thats what it had to offer to me. (in regards to a reader’s comment)
But anyway- you have to do what makes you happy. I’m gaining a baby bump and a serious fat mutiny issue that I’m going to have to wrestle once I have my baby. But until then…. :) we’ll see
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