House Hunted.

by Alexa on September 6, 2009

I want to pick out paint colors, and decorate. I am tired of living in collections of rooms all painted a single shade of cream. I am tired of the sense of why-bother impermanence that comes with a home you cannot alter and know you will likely be leaving within a couple of years. I am tired of lugging 20 pounds of baby up to the third floor, and keeping the stroller in my car because it is too heavy to transport up and down the stairs, and separating grocery bags into perishable and non- so that I can haul up only what needs to be refrigerated. I want some sort of outside space—I’m not picky: a porch, a deck, a patch of grass—where I can sit with a book and a glass of wine on warm days. I want to have a place for the lilac trees from our wedding that are currently being lilac-sat by friends, and I want to have a place to plant something in memory of Ames. I want a washer and dryer that aren’t four flights down and that don’t require me to save nine quarters a load for laundry. I want somewhere to park, so that during winter’s myriad snow emergencies we needn’t wake early to move our cars blocks away while the plows go past. I want neighbors with children for Simone to play with. I would like the more-than-$1000 we pay a month in rent to have at least a chance of building equity rather than disappearing into the ether. I want to be able to remodel, say by installing a really nice bathtub. I want a home that is ours, that is us, that makes my heart swell when I return to it.

HOWEVER. I like being able to walk to coffee shops, homemade ice cream, a wine store, boutiques, bakeries, Indian, Italian, Thai, Japanese, and Mexican restaurants, several yoga studios, a bagelry, and just about anything else you can think of. I like it here. I like my neighborhood. The obvious solution would be to get a house nearby, but if you know where I live, you are laughing right now. There are several places for sale on the street behind us—both for well over a million dollars. There are others on the surrounding blocks with more reasonable price tags—say half a million.

There are houses we would love, in neighborhoods we would adore, for much less. But even less is too much. The houses we CAN afford are on the fraying edges of nicer neighborhoods, at best, and in neighborhoods I would euphemistically describe as “lively” at worst.

There is this one house. On the aforementioned fraying edge, a few blocks from a lake, a few blocks from much fancier homes, still mostly in the middle of the city. Less walkable, but not in a suburb, just a residential pocket of urban St. Paul. It has two bedrooms, a beautiful bathroom with a skylight and deep whirlpool tub, gorgeous woodwork and hardwood floors, a screened porch large enough for table and chairs, a second porch in back, a yard with gardens surrounded by lilac trees. It feels solid and clean and well cared for. It felt—and of all the places we have looked at, this is the only time I have said this—like home. But the “fraying edge” part makes me nervous. I thought what would make me nervous is the fact that it’s near a cemetery, but that turns out not to bother me. It is the run down auto-shop on the corner, the alley, the proximity to a busy thoroughfare. The secluded feeling that comes from being the last house on the block is nice in the sunshine, but how would it feel at night? Three blocks in the other direction, naturally, and you are among lakeside houses well out of our price range.

That’s the way of the fraying edge. I went to Sarah Lawrence, which straddles the uneasy border between Yonkers and Bronxville, so the fraying edge is something with which I have a passing familiarity. I remember riding Metro North up from the city, shocked by how abruptly the Bronx turned into Westchester, with seemingly no transitional interlude.

Weirdly, if the house were an apartment, its location on the edge wouldn’t bother me at all. Most of my previous apartments have been in neighborhoods about five years and three blocks from gentrification, but the block where this house is located is so…quiet. I tend to find houses creepy in general, at least at night, when I’m alone. Apartments feel safer—I like being able to hear the sounds of people. It is hard to get into an irrational panic spiral about a rapist surely lurking in the closet when you can hear the soft murmur of the late show from the other side of the wall. It tethers you to reason. Oh, you remember. I am here. A person among many people. I feel safer in cities than in the eerie, empty country, but even urban houses have basements perfect for lurking. When I’d housesit for my mother—in one of the city’s safest neighborhoods—I’d barricade myself upstairs and sleep fitfully, HOLDING THE PHONE.

The potential for a reprise of the drunken wrestler situation, in which loud neighbors nearly drove my husband insane, makes a condo a risky proposition. I’d dearly, dearly love a rowhouse in the city, but we don’t really have those here. I might be happy in a townhome, but those are almost all in the suburbs. We could move to Minneapolis, or another city entirely, but where?

I am suddenly in desperate want of the illusion of permanence. I might be nesting—I never DID get a third trimester, after all. Maybe it will pass. I remind myself that things go wrong with houses, and there is no landlord to call.

Still. Paint chips. I love those damn little swatches.

Where are YOU? Apartment? City? Suburb? Do you like it there, where you are? Do you have a house? Is it more expensive than you thought? Does it feel like your sanctuary? Are you typing your comment from beyond the grave after being the victim of a grisly murder? Was the murderer hiding in your basement?

{ 1 trackback }

Leave a Comment

{ 144 comments… read them below or add one }

Laura September 6, 2009 at 10:05 pm

Apartment. Lovely neighborhood, a “walker’s paradise” score 97 or something. A rental. Too small. But under rent control! No on-site laundry. No separate bedroom for the baby. Kinda sucks but the neighborhood is great, we’re a ten-minute walk from my office and kiddo’s daycare and about ten thousand fabulous parks, and every falling-down doghouse in this town, even the sketchy-sketchy parts, sells for 750K-plus. So we’re stuck.

Reply

Heaher September 6, 2009 at 10:13 pm

Oooo, I get you 100%. I grew up in Chicago. In the city. Near the lake. We moved to DC when I was 14. I resided in apartments up until two year ago when my man and I bought a small*ish* townhouse in Rockville, MD. I can walk to a Starbuck’s, a Target, and a grocery store. I miss the walkability of Chicago and DC. I very much do not care for where we are right now, BUT we just had our third child and I cannot imagine being in an apartment with these three. My oldest child attends one of the best public high schools in the country and my little ones have a park down the street and a little (tiny) yard. BUT the house is small and thanks to the market tanking we no longer have any equity which is physically painful. People are selling for $90k less than what we bought for in 2007. $90k less. Ouch. Plus our place needs updates to the kitchen and bath rooms. We just put in wood floors and finished the basement but it feels useless to put so much money in when we are losing money. But…. it is our home and it is where our little family lives. I hope to be out of here by the time my middle son turns five, in three years. Right now we are content. I *too* hate being alone in the house though, I totally feel weird in here alone. And I miss the city. Miss the energy and the people. Oooo, our neighbors make noise. At 1am. Loud noise. That makes my head spin. But we have a park and a Starbuck’s so I will deal for now. There is always 911 at 11pm.

Reply

Linz September 6, 2009 at 10:19 pm

We bought a house about 18 months ago, just outside of a mid-sized Great Plains city’s central area. Like it pretty well – we live on the boundary between Sketchersville apartment tracts (2 blocks north) and million-dollar homes (2 blocks east). Much better price than I thought we’d ever pay for hardwood floors, 3 bdrm, 1.5 bath, 300-sq. ft kitchen – the hardwood and kitchen were what sold us. It does feel like a sort of sanctuary, except for the loud Southeastern Asian frat house next door. Okay, that’s not *really* what it is, but there are days where I wonder – there are at least 5 young men living there who own approximately 7 cars among them. Within walking/biking distance of my old workplace, downtown, the grocery and the hardware store. I kind of wish we lived in a more central part of our city, but there seem to be only expensive loft apartments there. Also, there are way too many loud bars and freight trains downtown.

Reply

Amelia Sprout September 6, 2009 at 10:20 pm

I may email you, but we live on the edge. We gave up some of the neighborhood things where we are to have a house we could afford. There are days when it is rough, days when I wish we had other amenities that would make it more worth the edge part.

Do not buy anything you are not at peace with. Have you looked at my hood? It has it’s issues, but damn is it affordable.

Reply

natalie September 6, 2009 at 10:22 pm

We live in a house in an “up-and-coming” neighborhood (code for “on the fringe”) in Austin and we bought 5 years ago, when it wasn’t even “the fringe” but more like “the distant shores of the fringe.” BUT we do have what you described. Despite the rundown auto shop on the corner (really! we have one!), I’m always so, so glad to walk in the door each day. It’s our home, and it feels wonderful.

Reply

jlp September 6, 2009 at 10:24 pm

I used to love hearing the Tonight Show (with Carson) through the walls in my apartment in DC. It was so reassuring — I suspect because it reminded me of days of going to sleep with my parents watching TV in the next room.

Now I live in a house which I adore (mostly), in a walkable neighborhood in a urban area. And although there are many things I love about it (including being done with noisy neighbors at 3am), I am also not too fond of being alone here at night. Which I am now. Hm. I hope that the murderer in the basement is not reading this.

Reply

Katie September 6, 2009 at 10:32 pm

We live in exactly the neighborhood I would love to live in for the rest of my life, with exactly the same prospects of buying a house until at least a couple years from now. It’s a 2BR Duplex closer to Macalester, with the same ups and downs. We do have laundry and are on the first floor and have covered parking and can paint, but it’s small and I would kill for a second bathroom (dream on in Saint Paul, eh?) and a dishwasher that’s permanently installed instead of a rolling counter and just more space. We looked at moving this summer but didn’t want to give notice before finding something better. I KNOW that it doesn’t make sense to buy a house until I’m done with school and I don’t even want to buy a house really because of all the concerns you mention, but I want a yard and the permanence and a third bedroom in case.

Reply

Aimee September 6, 2009 at 10:37 pm

Smack dab in the middle of suburbia outside of Boise. I can’t walk to anything (well I could- but I’m not ambitious enough to walk the mile and a half to get there), but I love the quietness of our neighborhood. My house is definitely my castle and I love that I can paint my daughter’s bedroom lime green (and I did) because it’s my house and I can do what I want with it.

Reply

Sheridan September 6, 2009 at 10:49 pm

House. Mortgage. Yard. Outer suburbia and further away from the city and ‘cool’ areas than any of our friends would ever consider. Love my home, it is definitely my sanctuary. What I also love, is that despite being 40km from the city, and in a newly developed area, I can walk to shops, restaurants, library, aquatic centre, parks, walkways, lakes and playgrounds.

But! Everyone is different! I have never slept holding the phone, so maybe that’s just not for you?

Reply

andrea September 6, 2009 at 10:51 pm

We moved from my dream neighborhood where the homes easily go for a million plus to a another urban, but affordable neighborhood just over 5 years ago. I still have many things within walking distance and now that I have two kids the priorities of what should be walkable have changed. I used to drive through that old neighborhood after we moved away and promise myself that someday we’d be back, but not anymore, our current neighborhood now feels like home.

Reply

Ivory September 6, 2009 at 11:05 pm

We got an offer on our townhouse 12 hours before I was admitted to the hospital and closed on that home the day I went into labor. We lived a 200 sq ft “carriage house” for 3 months before our current house was finished (luckily only a month with said baby).
We live in a Denver (Denver rocks, you should move here ;)) in an awesome neighborhood that’s just minutes from downtown. Our neighborhood is bordered by the “ghetto” and 2 prisons, but I wouldn’t change a thing. Sometimes it really sucks having a large mortgage payment, but then there are days when I love being able to open up my back door and watch my child play in the yard while I cook in the kitchen.

Reply

leenie September 6, 2009 at 11:05 pm

oh yes yes yes.

i just bought my first home a few months ago. i needed a settling, a cementing in the same way that you did, though for different reasons. i bought a not-dream-home in a not-dream-neighborhood, in atlanta. it was cheaper than i needed it to be (hooray!), and i chose to take the extra money and remodel, knock down walls, make a new kitchen, a deck, make the space mine mine mine.

i worried too about sleeping with the phone. i live alone, without a dog. i’ve always been in a condo or apartment or loft, and always been able to shout to neighbors. i’ve been the victim of violence, and anxiety of that sort is my middle name.

i’ve been so surprised though: i DON’T sleep with the phone. the house feels good— i was told a single woman lived in it her whole life, and died here. it makes me feel good– she’s looking out for me. i like the in-between-ness of the neighborhood, both neighbors have lived here since the 50′s, and i can’t understand anything they say because of their thick southern accents. i like being in a city, and building something permanent in a place of change.

good luck. wishing you a happy home.

Reply

Melissia September 6, 2009 at 11:10 pm

Live in a modest house in the burbs so that we can save, save, save for college tuitions. And even though it has been many years since I have lived in an apartment or alone, I still get the creepy, crawly feelings if I have to sleep in my house in my very safe neighborhood all by myself all night. There is just something not right about a house with only one person in it, it is wasteful and wrong, the air even feel wrong and not restful.

Reply

Carla Hinkle September 6, 2009 at 11:15 pm

We live in what I would call a “village” type, beach-y neighborhood of Southern California. Not on the beach, but a 5 minute drive. Possible to walk – 10-15 minutes — to many things, an EXTREMELY short drive. Sidewalks and trees and lots and lots of kids. We have a view of the ocean. The public schools are great and the kids’ preschool is 5 minutes away. Our house is lovely and comfortable and we have fixed it up just how we like it.

BUT. We live in a 3 BR, 2 BA, 1300 sq ft house with a small, patio yard. With 2 kids and soon to be a third. That we could only in any way afford because my husband is 6 years older than me and bought it 11 years ago before the real estate market went totally nuts. We are going to need to get something bigger with 3 kids but the price point of buying in our current neighborhood scares the bejeezus out of me. I also can’t imagine living anywhere else. We are going to squeeze the kids in 3 to a room (I work at home and need an office) for as long as we can stand it and hope we can figure out something …

Reply

Katy September 6, 2009 at 11:20 pm

Love love love this topic! I would be sooo happy living in the heart of New Orleans with accessibility to restaurants, bars, shops, the streetcar, but when the Hubs and i moved back here insurance was iffy at best and the schools in the city are a complete no-go. So. . .we moved to a tiny town 45 minutes north of the city. It’s funky, artsy, fun. It’s historic which is rare around here. The public school are excellent and within walking distance. We could afford it AND the insurance AND we aren’t in a flood zone. It’s got maybe four restaurants, a small grocery, two bars, two galleries, and a fabulous walking path and park. Its’ not perfection but it’s good enough. And did I mention we could afford it?

Reply

Jackie September 6, 2009 at 11:23 pm

We live in suburban St. Louis…small three bedroom 1 bath house. We moved here from another city so we didn’t really know where we should move…just where we could afford. For those who live in STL our neighborhood is not that great but people can be so judgmental of their own city! Now that we live here we like the neighborhood…real people live here who do not think of it as “the fringe”, just home. We do hope to move closer to my husbands work in the next few years but that is because both of our commutes are 45 min +. I think you should spend some time in the neighborhood at different times of day. Good luck!

Reply

Carbon September 6, 2009 at 11:24 pm

This comment was written from a small old inexpensive home on the wrong side of many frayed edges. The neighbor added a new pit bull to the family today. But, at least they no longer have the one that jumped into my yard and chased me into my home. Then, there was the time 18 armored and shielded law enforcement representatives paid a visit on the house across the street… Then, there is the alley wherein random pieces of junk get deposited, only to disappear months later. But, nothing that has significantly impacted our lives.

Our child will (hopefully) arrive within the next three weeks. But, I’d like to be in a different neighborhood before she’s ready to explore it. I’m thinking countryside, an acre or two, breathing room, enough space to make one appreciate neighbors rather than resent them.

Reply

heather September 6, 2009 at 11:24 pm

In the country, miles away where no one can hear us. I love it during the day when all I see are deer and other wildlife? At night? And if the husband isn’t home? Wide awake with a maglite beside me in my well-lit master suite. My fortress of solitude. :)

Reply

Rachel September 6, 2009 at 11:24 pm

Not that I have any experience in this topic, but back behind Uptown in Minneapolis is a cute area. Around 34-36th streets off of Hennepin. They look like cute single family homes interspersed with apartment buildings. No idea how much they cost, but cute area!

Reply

Kate September 6, 2009 at 11:55 pm

Last year we were able to realize our dream: we built a 2700 sq ft house on 5 acres, that sits 1/3 mile off the road. The closest neighbors are about 150 yds away and they happen to be my parents.

We are technically part of a tiny little town that sits northeast of a nice little city, population approx 70,000. My son’s school is quite small and I like it. We are adding 4-legged members to the family, have bonfires in the backyard, listen to the owls and coyotes (who may have eaten one of my cats), I have a garden and a clothesline, can see every single star at night, yet we still know our other neighbors by name and wave when we drive by.

My kids run around like dirty little savages, grazing out of the garden and off the wild blackberry bushes and they have learned to catch frogs, grasshoppers and grass snakes. No one is going to snatch them off the street or run them over.

I LOVE IT. I was meant to be a country girl and a country girl I finally am. I’m not scared to be out here alone. I have guns and know how to use them. :)

Not everyone’s version of heaven but it is mine.

Reply

Rachel September 6, 2009 at 11:58 pm

I own a 2 br/1 ba house in a neighborhood a few blocks off of the historical neighborhood in my Midwestern city. I love it — 100 years old, original woodwork on the main floor, but close enough to walk downtown, the funky arts neighborhood, and the farmers’ market, depending on which direction one chooses.

But last night, at 2:30am, I woke up to find a bat flying around my bedroom, and I couldn’t call anybody else to deal with it. Luckily, it seemed to understand that the woman screaming “Get the f— out of my house, you flying rat!” was not a friend, and finally found the window I had opened for it. I like bats in theory, just not in my bedroom at 2:30 am.

Not being able to call somebody to just deal with things is the only down side I’ve discovered to the whole home-ownership thing. And the tax benefits rock.

Reply

Mrs. Spit September 7, 2009 at 12:05 am

I am in a 100 year old house, in a fraying neighbourhood,as you called it. We moved in 5 years ago, and we are in the midst of “gentrification”, which is both good and bad, in that we are losing the characters, but also the prostitutes.

I wouldn’t change my house, or my crazy, eclectic neighbourhood of artists and SAHMs and ethnic food for anything.

Reply

Be Like the Squirrel September 7, 2009 at 12:07 am

We live in a 1940s house on the edge of the frontier between a really cool urban neighborhood and “East Stabbington.” We started looking for a permanent location after our landlord raised our rent to the equivalent of a mortgage payment. We bought while the market was going crazy but now I think we owe more than the house is currently worth.

It is really nice to have our own place, with a yard and room to grow. But the house is a source of endless projects and thousands of imperfections that fill me with shame.

Have you considered Utah? Seriously. We have coffee and wine. It’s true!

Reply

May September 7, 2009 at 12:16 am

Walkability? What is that? Hang on a sec while I climb into my SUV and drive, Starbucks latte in hand, 15 minutes away to the nearest dictionary to look that up.

Ok, I’m back now. We live in a suburb of a suburb of a suburb of San Diego. In an enormous house in a neighborhood of nearly identical houses. For which we paid waaaaaaaay more than I ever thought I’d pay for anything.

But. It is a brand new house. Everything is clean and modern and functional and exactly the way we want it because we are the original owners. Every room has wired in Ethernet and I can play my music stored on my computer upstairs through the sealers built into the downstairs ceiling. And every other house in a ten mile radius has 2.5 children under the age of seven. They play soccer and t-ball in the streets.

I live in a Stepford House.

Reply

May September 7, 2009 at 12:18 am

Through the speakers, that is. The house also came with an auto spell correcter that drives me batty.

Reply

Julie September 7, 2009 at 12:20 am

Get the house and a big, sloppily loving canine. A Retriever of some sort.

Woof, there it is.

Reply

Elizabeth September 7, 2009 at 12:22 am

Being that I know you’re in MSP just like me. I’ve got a couple of ideas (which you may or may not have already tossed out).

A. Northeast!! Totally on the cheaper side, with the 8K kickback from the gov’t for buying your first home, it’s totally doable. AND totally WALKABLE!
B. Hopkins – where I live. Its like a city all its own. We have a main street, walk to coffee, grocery, movie theater, stores, library. PLUS! And here’s the BONUS! You can live by me and Lillian and Simone can be best buddies who ride bikes all summer long.

We’ve lived in both the 100 year old full of character home and most recently moved to the less than 10 years old box like home with more space than we know what to do with. I’d say they both have their charms and drawbacks. Apartment dwelling with children… I’ll be honest, I can’t believe you’ve lasted this long.

Reply

Abby Spice September 7, 2009 at 12:37 am

Oh, man, that brought back memories. SLC was one weird place, with Bronxville (still the richest zip code in America?) on one side and Yonkers on the other, with the SKETCHY AS HELL station you had to go to use Amtrak.

Oh, houses. I’m in college (no longer at SLC however, for various reasons unrelated to its awesomeness, because it is awesome) and just got my first place (“my” as in “live by myself but my parents pay”). It’s an apartment in a complex; four apartments per building, basically suburban (said parents were willing to pay more to keep me out of “the student ghetto”), but only a couple of minutes from downtown.

My family has always lived in houses, but I always pictured myself in an apartment building in New York, until I lived in an apartment. I don’t like worrying that I’m too loud. I don’t like smelling other people’s food. I don’t like not being able to decorate. So now suddenly I’m thinking that when I have kids I’ll forgo culture for the freedom to paint.

Heads up on the snow thing: here (upstate NY) everyone has to make sure their cars are in the garage by 3 am if it snows, because everyone pays the guys who mow lawns in the summer to come plow driveways in the winter. I imagine that you also get enough snow to want that…

Reply

Erika September 7, 2009 at 12:41 am

Thank God you posted this. I had no idea that other people struggled with this!

We (two adults and a 20 pound baby) live in a small one bedroom rental apartment in San Francisco. We sleep in the living room, she sleeps in the bedroom to prevent someone (I won’t tell you who) from yelling MAMA! DOGGY! HAPPY! MAMA! at various hours of the night. We live within a block of world famous sights and food. My daughter can hear 5 different languages while we are out for an afternoon. She plays in city parks and eats indian food. We walk everywhere. But the apartment is tiny, and what teenager wants to have her parents sleeping in the living room? Its on the 3rd floor of a large building and the traffic is sometimes so noisy that you cannot hear conversations inside. BUT. After many years of this, I am now afraid to sleep on the ground floor (someone might just break a window and come in and kill me) and I am petrified to drive in the crazyness of the city.

I fantasize about an outside space and free parking and TWO WHOLE BEDROOMS and quiet and stars….but then I think about walking, and food, and coffee shops, and taking a bus for 10 minutes to go to places that people fly from Europe to see….and how once we leave the city we will never be back and what a cool kid she will be being raised here…and then I think about storage space, and having a bike, and new appliances, and not having drunk tourists outside my window….

So I go back and forth all the time, and I have no good answer for you….

Reply

Veronica September 7, 2009 at 1:51 am

I’m in Tasmania. So …

I’m pretty rural. I look outside and while I’m part of a tiny township, there are probably only 5 houses in a kilometre circle. I’ve got a (3brm) house and an acre of flat land.

On the plus side, there is very little noise (aside from the road I am right next to, sigh) and no nosy neighbours looking in my windows.

On the down side, I can’t walk anywhere. At all.

Reply

Liz the PT September 7, 2009 at 2:29 am

i’m barely inside the fraying edge of a gentrifying neighborhood–and i do mean barely. a block, or three, and things start to fray. i used to live in the fraying edge (10 blocks from here), and it was just fine, and really, the time the two street people got into a fistfight over our recycling was as amusing as it was scary. portland OR is at least as expensive as st. paul, and it was a massive undertaking to find a decent house in a decent-ish neighborhood within my price range…but here i am! granted, i have had to both pay for and personally undertake a LOT of what realtors euphemistically refer to as “cosmetic improvements” (no, thank you, to the mauve grosgrain wallpaper…and four preceding layers). i do feel safe here, although i am not a huge fan of my basement (exterior entrance) at night. it is quiet at night, even though i am just a block and a half from a major street. i can walk to the library (3 houses down! joy!), the bank, the hardware store (very important, this), the grocery store, the movie rental place, Cajun, Thai, sushi, and Middle Eastern restaurants, a German-style sausage shop (very comforting for a displaced midwesterner), an alternative health clinic, the dog park, my hairdresser, a coffee shop, a Radio Shack…etc. this was very important to me when i looked for location. i can bike to the community center (i could walk, but it’s well over a mile, maybe two) and to work, if i am so inclined. the yards are small enough here that i can delude myself that the neighbors would hear me scream…and really, they might. they are all friendly, and they certainly keep an eye out for me, and for each other. i thought homeownership would feel burdensome, but it turns out that i love it. i highly recommend. and the decorating? heavenly. it’s all that has pulled me through four rooms of 5-6 layers of wallpaper removal…with two more to go.

hint: if you don’t have one, get a realtor. it doesn’t cost you anything (the seller pays the realtors) and they can send you info on houses, help negotiate with the sellers, etc. there was a massive water leak during the sale of my house (after accepted offer, before closing) that required the renegotiation of everything…i would have been sunk if i hadn’t had a realtor. oh, and get the sewer scoped if it’s an older home. mine needed a $15K new sewer line and it was the seller’s responsibility…thank goodness. moneywise, you guys might qualify for certain kinds of loans if you are buying in an “urban renewal area”. certain good kinds of loans. with small down payments and small interest rates!

Reply

Liz the PT September 7, 2009 at 2:35 am

just read up there. i had TWO bats get into the one and only place where i have lived alone, and it turns out you can call animal control. they shame you, but it is worth it. if bats get in here, my first call will be to animal control, and the second to the bat guy to come bat-proof my house, hang the cost.

Reply

Liz the PT September 7, 2009 at 2:38 am

still reading. also? lived in a lovely four-plex in a lovely urban-ish suburb…and had the SWAT team in my yard at 7:30 a.m. as i was half-dressed for work. i noticed this when they pounded on the downstairs neighbor’s door yelling “police! search warrant! open up!”. german shepherds, shields, unmarked white truck. when i told my coworkers, they asked incredulously, “in _______???”. it happens everywhere.

Reply

t.cup September 7, 2009 at 4:08 am

so so SO nice to realise that other people have crazy serial killer phobias and can’t sleep in a house alone at night by themselves. years ago i used to do it and then i met my husband and went all soft and now if i have to do it i sleep with two phones (cellphone, in case the serial killer cuts the phone cables – even though our phone cables are buried i think – thats what they always do first, right?) and my whopping pastry rolling pin that is wooden and as thick as my arm. i used to take a carving knife too but then i couldn’t sleep because i thought i might cut myself and bleed to death in my sleep.
my husband says, you know that there have never been any serial killers in new zealand, right?? but i figure that SOMEONE has to be first.

anyway he owns a house in a part of town we don’t want to live in (was good for him when he bought it, single) even though it is a stellar house. his parents live in it at the moment and they own OUR house which we have been in for a year and… i love this house. it is freaking HUGE and we have a YARD and a GARAGE and while we are not allowed to redecorate as in, say, paint, we are going to knock out a wall to make the office into a bedroom. any day now. being that, you know, we need it as a bedroom because we have another kid on the way in seven weeks. ANY DAY NOW, I TELL YOU.

Reply

Kellie September 7, 2009 at 4:39 am

Interesting.

We built a house 5 years ago next week. It’s pretty much my *dream* house – much larger than I’d ever imagined I would someday own. When you think “new house”, you think “less maintenance” – which is fair, but new houses have their own problems as well. For instance, I wanted a jacuzzi tub – I begged, pleaded and cried. Finally my husband agree (read wanted me to shut up) and we picked out the perfect jacuzzi tub. I made myself promise not to use the tub until we were completely moved in and organized – it would be my reward. Fast for 6 months (yup.. a bit of a procrastinator) I was finally ready for the maiden voyage. I filled the tub, grabbed a glass of wine and a book and was whole heartily enjoying myself when I heard my husband stamp up the stairs, bolting into the bathroom and screamed – “stop splashing – your flooding the pantry”. (As if I was splashing around like a whale trying to beach myself… I think not.) Apparently when the plumber installed my wonderful tub – he hadn’t hooked up the overflow correctly and instead of the tub draining it was pouring off inside the walls. Long story short – brand new house, tub installation out of warranty, and now we have to replace a section of wall and ceiling in the pantry and hire a new dude to fix my tub.

We were the 11th house to be built in a new sub-division of 130. We saw the entire neighborhood be built. What we didn’t realize though when we bought our lot was just how close the houses actually were. You can’t get a good prospective looking at empty land. I’m just thankful we didn’t buy a smaller lot – I couldn’t handle much closer.

As far as security goes in a house – there are things you can do to make it more secure. We have motion detectors and an alarm system and our doors are never unlocked. We never leave windows open when we are not here and we have a locked fence. I don’t really fear an intrusion as much as I fear the police won’t properly triangulate my position correctly from the gps of my crappy cell phone and in the middle of my untimely demise, they’ll be knocking on the door of my neighbor.

Reply

Mary September 7, 2009 at 5:15 am

We are in Fairfield County, CT, right next to Westchester. It is quiet, safe, posh, sprawling, lonely and sad. It is the burbs.

We just moved here from Chicago, and I miss our city life beyond belief. It is the best to have the world outside your door, and your neighbours right next to you.

Do you have two flats where you live? In Chicago, they are much cheaper than single family homes, and you have a little rental income. Also, you don’t have to feel like you are home alone when you are home alone.

Nesting is fun, even during the fantasy portion. Best of luck!

Reply

rockmama September 7, 2009 at 5:37 am

I loved my time in Minneapolis. We lived in Richfield, which, people have told me since was a “really rough area.” Maybe the idea of a rough area in the Midwest is a little different that I’m used to! I left my keys in my car trunk once and found a friendly note from one of my neighbors saying that they’d found them. :)

Having lived in a lot of different types of housing (including a 57 narrowboat) I am desperately looking forward to a house. I am ready for the sounds coming from downstairs being made by a member of my family who I can tell to knock it off if need be. I’m tired of slamming doors in other people’s flats waking up my daughter or the smell of someone smoking in the garden downstairs drifting up through my open window. While I like the sound of life going on around me, my neighbor screaming profanities at her ex-husband who’s come to collect his things is not really what I had in mind. Can’t WAIT to buy a house in the US next year!

Reply

Shannon Kieta September 7, 2009 at 7:19 am

Alexa…
Houses are nice and all, but the maintenanence, taxes, upkeep, etc. You get my drift. I see you getting your own house someday soon. When you do, it will be well worth it. Shannon

Reply

silver September 7, 2009 at 7:38 am

I live in a townhome in the suburbs. My husband works here, we wanted him to have a short enough commute that he could bike to work on nice days. I’m maybe 10-14 minutes from downtown St Paul, and that helps it feel a little less suburban. But it’s a suburb, and a sprawling one at that, there is hardly anything between my house and the park, grocery store, and other places, yet they still manage to be a mile away.

Reply

Cobblestone September 7, 2009 at 7:38 am

I live on the outskirts of a liberal island in the middle of the conservative ocean. I live in a house with a chunk of honest to goodness planet around it. The house was designed by a man who was planning to be a bachelor / monk. Then I married him, then we had a kid and the bachelor/monk design is …. strained. I have to drive 4.5 miles to get to a GAS STATION which is the first sign of civilization available to me.

I long for the end unit of a row of townhouses with a garage and basement. I long to walk to the major chain grocery store and drive everywhere else. I long for sidewalks so that I don’t teach my child HOW TO PLAY IN THE STREET because it is the only paved area around me. I long for the benign neglect of neighbors who recognize me on sight but couldn’t care less.

Reply

Heather September 7, 2009 at 7:39 am

My father is a minister. I lived in homes that belonged to the church, I was never allowed to change anything or hang anything. Then I lived in college dorms – again, no painting or hanging stuff. After that I rented, I could finally HANG but no painting. Finally, we bought a home four years ago. BigP still won’t let me paint but I am a hanging mad woman. I have a huge wall coated in picture frames of all shapes/sizes/colors…it makes me happy.

Reply

a September 7, 2009 at 7:50 am

The thing is that crime stats say that most victims are murdered by people they know. So if you don’t know any murderous people, you’re pretty safe.

House ownership is nice, but it is very involved. You have to pay taxes, which suck. You have to do yard maintenance – a couple of lilac bushes are not enough. Houses require upkeep – tuckpointing, drywall repair, plumbing – but it’s not terrible. You’ll find yourself with less time for walking to the coffee shop.

But, it is nice to not hear people…to walk to another room to do your free laundry…to park in your garage or driveway. And if you think the fringe neighborhood is going to be gentrified, it may even be a good investment – which is questionable these days.

Reply

Heather September 7, 2009 at 7:50 am

I am totally the opposite. I lived in town for a few months and couldn’t handle all the people. We own our home. Yes repairs aren’t fun, but it is so worth it when you can do what you want and no one can tell you no. Good luck!!

Reply

scantee September 7, 2009 at 8:45 am

I live in Minneapolis, in what I guess would be considered a transitional neighborhood. Five blocks to the north is pretty rough, five blocks to the south pretty nice. That said, we went to our neighborhood night out block party and I was shocked at how many people with young children live in our area. It is the sort of neighborhood people are moving to buy their first homes and start families, which is nice being a young family ourselves.

I love our house, it’s the perfect size, with a yard and garage. And yet, I just don’t think I like home ownership. I hate, hate, hate taking care of all of the little things that go wrong with a house. The mind space that those little fix-it jobs take up is almost too much for me. My ideal would be to rent a small house, preferably in the St. Anthony Park neighborhood. With that we could have a yard, they would probably let us paint, and yet, when the plumbing goes to shit, we’d be able to kick back while someone else deals with the problem.

Reply

karen Cucpake September 7, 2009 at 8:48 am

Though I dream of having the Million Dollar house in the middle of it all!!!! (I WILL RETIRE THERE !!! I MADE A PROMISE!) I live in Suburbia… My daughter can walk to the 7-11 on the corner… and roam the streets, and nearby woods and lake in relative safety…. but its DEFINATLY not what I want forever. Its a wonderful house that we took from “custom” builder … to AMAZING!!! and I love nearly every corner of it. I have one more stop to make before coming home to my CITY HOUSE though… I want to live in the country.. where you can hear the squeaky screen door slap closed… and the cicadas buzzing…. and smell sweet summer grass. yeah. That first.

Reply

Michelle September 7, 2009 at 9:04 am

I love St. Paul, and your urban life does sound lovely. However, I also understand the pull toward permanence and paint chips. If you would consider moving, I vote for Iowa City, especially since I know you enjoyed visiting there recently. We lived there for seven years when we were in grad school, and on two grad assistantship salaries, we were able to afford to buy a house, and we were able to walk/bike/bus to the farmer’s market, to New Pi Co-op, to Prairie Lights, to Brueggers, to the Java House, etc., etc. We had one car that we rarely drove. We LOVED our life there. When we graduated, we had to move because, well, there are too many unemployed Ph.D.s who can’t bear to leave Iowa City, and we didn’t want to join them with our sleeping bags under the Burlington Street bridge. We now live in North Carolina in the suburbs on a cul-de-sac (which we hate to admit that we love despite the next several clauses in this sentence), we have two cars, we can’t walk anywhere from our house, and we miss IC a ton. If you want a convenient, low-stress, affordable life, Iowa City is the place to be.

Reply

Mikki September 7, 2009 at 9:05 am

Come move to Albuquerque. We live in Old Town. Which is on the fringe. But I love it. We are within walking to all the museums, the parks, the aquarium. I live in a house that is part of a little “compound” of 9 homes. It feels removed from the city and safe. There is a house for sale in compound. Actually two but one is really really dark inside. The other already has a wonderful tub. I would love to have someone my daughters age move in. THere is a wine bistro up the street. No homemade icecream or bagels, but lots of green chile. Plus there are some other kids that will be perfect babysitting age in a year or so!
I know you won’t really consider it but Albuquerque is a great city with a ton to do. If you ignore the crime rate, the bad schools, the lack of jobs, etc it is perfect. But they do have to balloon fiesta. IF you want to come check it out come during the first two weekends of October to see all the balloons! You can stay with us.

Mikki

Reply

Celia September 7, 2009 at 9:18 am

We are in Bristol Borough Pennsylvania. In a row house, in a town with three police officers. All our neighbors know each other and hang out on the stoop chatting. That part is great. However, we are also on a major road and have a car dealership literally in our backyard. Our front yard looks like Sesame Street, our backyard looks like Philly. If I look out my window I see the unintentionally pornographic sign “park in rear”. We love it, for the most part. Do I wish I had an ince cream shop instead of a car dealership in my backyard? Yeah. But it is just right for us, and is a great neighborhood to start a family in. We will move to Yardley in a few years and pretend we are fancy.

Reply

albe September 7, 2009 at 9:26 am

I live in a house in an urbanish / suburbanish neighborhood of Madison. I don’t know how to characterize it. We’re 3 miles from the Capitol, a mile and a half from the university, but very close to developed areas with shops, grocery stores, coffee shops, etc. I can walk to the library, two groceries, the bank, a lot of restaurants, and my job. The only thing missing in walking distance is a hardware store — I hate having to drive to the hardware store! The walking part is why I bought a house in this neighborhood.

The downside is that if you compare to living in a suburb just 2 or 3 miles farther away from the downtown area, I literally paid twice as much for a house half as big. My house is small, my back yard is just a patio (super tiny), and houses here are very close together. Having lived in big cities my whole life, Madison already feels small to me and this neighborhood is as suburban as I can possibly stand. I need sidewalks and walking, as it’s a huge part of my quality of life. We have no back yard but our house does face a park, and last night the parents strung up a giant sheet and played a children’s movie where everybody brought their picnic blankets and lawn chairs. It’s that kind of neighborhood, where kids still run around free in packs, and I wanted that for my family.

I love my house because it was built in the twenties, has hardwood floors, original woodwork, and charm. But it also drives me nuts because the kitchen is miniscule, there is only one bathroom, and the upkeep is expensive and time consuming. There is no perfect house, I think, unless you happen to be wealthy. I bought this place as a single woman and fast forward to marriage, ridiculously expensive fertility treatments, 2 kids, and a husband who quit his job to go back to school, and I’m very glad I have a small mortgage that I could afford back when I was a single gal.

Reply

Celia September 7, 2009 at 9:26 am

Also, I have to tell ya, I have to go three flights down the stairs to do laundry. Such is life in a row home. But we have lovely plaster walls and the most darling room that will be turned into a nursery soon. We also have an award winning downtown, and when my cat was lost everyone from the town council to the police chief to the an entire elementary school looked for him. You don’t get that in a city.

Reply

Previous post:

Next post: