Home Sweet. *Updated*
I loved, loved, loved hearing where you all live. Every time a new comment appeared after my last post, I’d inwardly clap my hands with glee—and I would have done it outwardly, but I was in a coffee shop. It was fascinating, and helpful, and just…nice, to hear your stories and to be able to place you somewhere physical.
I was also pleased by how many of you share my fear of being alone in a house. For once, I seem to possess a fairly standard level of neurosis about something. I am very impressed with myself.
In case you are interested, here is MY housing history, in something-rather-larger-than-a-nutshell:
I was born in Boston (well, Cambridge), and lived with my parents (as was the custom at the time) in Harvard “Married Student Housing,” while my mother attended law school. I have no real memories of our apartment, but my mother tells a delightful story about reaching over in the night for my bottle and finding it covered with cockroaches. They call that “character.”
We moved to Minnesota when I was a couple of years old, and lived briefly with my then-single uncle in his apartment. Eventually we attracted the notice of his landlord, and he was evicted—as if sharing a bachelor pad with his older sister, brother-in-law, and their toddler hadn’t been pleasure enough.
Next we moved to a duplex in Northeast Minneapolis. We lived first in the upper level, of which my memories are clear, but possibly not to be trusted. I seem to recall an incident with a lake of fire and dragons? As near as I can tell, this was more realistically a product of the orange shag carpeting in my bedroom and the sudden entrance of firepeople due to a neighbor’s oven, but whatever the details, I was very pleased when we moved to the lower level. The house was blue and white with a red door, and we had a narrow yard, and irises by the front stoop. The neighborhood was mostly students and immigrants. A girl named Amelia lived across the alley—her house was dark and her mother and grandmother spoke Polish; they taught me a few words I have long since forgotten.
It was definitely the fraying edge, but as a kid, I LOVED that neighborhood. The sidewalks were treacherously uneven. I rode my training-wheeled bike around, and there was a candy store that sold those colored-sugar-dots-on-paper—very boring candy, made exciting by the fact that the shop was located around the corner, on ANOTHER STREET, and thus I technically wasn’t allowed to go there. My best friend—named, like seemingly every other girl at the time, Jenny—lived down the block, in the house where “Untamed Heart” would be filmed some years later (we spent hours on that porch swing). A car caught fire across the street, once, which was thrilling. I was bused out of the neighborhood to an Open School, because the local schoolyard was at the time colorfully peppered with drug dealers. Our house had a mouse problem. We went to donut shops a lot, and to the university bookstore to ogle the excellent pen selection, and to a diner in some sort of train car, and to St. Anthony Main, which had a fabulous toy store and a book store called Gringolet.
When I was eight-ish we moved to the suburbs. At first it seemed like a good idea—I would have my own room, while until then I’d been sharing with my brother. But…no. I missed my friends and didn’t seem to fit in. People were religious, and I was constantly being ostentatiously prayed for, which I resented mightily. I was confused by the lack of sidewalks, and felt nervous walking RIGHT IN THE STREET, which would’ve gotten you run over where I’d lived before. People wore different clothes (“punk” had been a big look in my old neighborhood), and listened to different music—Debbie Gibson instead of Madonna—and the teachers no longer found me charming. At my old school, I’d learned Spanish and been on the literary magazine, learned to sew and to sing in myriad languages. I’d taken pottery, and some sort of class where we read books about death (Taste of Blackberries, 1000 Paper Cranes—I can’t quite imagine what that class would have been, for a first grader.) My new school was boring, and the lunches sucked.
My room had carpet—which I hated, and eventually ripped out all by myself. Carpet has always depressed me terribly; I’m not sure why. Even now, I will only consider houses with carpet if they are cheap enough that we can afford to re-do the floors. (I know. Stupid. Who else is plunged into a fit of ennui by flooring?)
I was mocked relentlessly until my junior year of high school, when the particular subculture I was involved in became fashionable. I had the surreal experience, then, of being chatted up by a boy who had SPIT ON ME only the year before. I hung around Minneapolis and made other friends, many days taking the long bus ride into the city after school.
Our house looked exactly like all of the others, and even though I lived there until I was 16, I felt no attachment to it when I left. The house we moved into afterwards felt more like home, even though I was there only a few years before leaving for college. Home is quite obviously more than where you reside.
During my junior year we moved to St. Paul, into a house in a beautiful residential part of the city (a house my brother still lives in.) I switched schools my senior year. My new school was diverse, urban, lovely, and I already had friends there. The administrators didn’t treat me like a criminal because of the way I dressed. The classes were challenging, and there were enough textbooks to go around because the budget hadn’t been depleted by absurdly inappropriate expenditures on sports. Our neighborhood we lived in felt like a small town, and you could walk to restaurants, a corner grocery, a library, and shops. My first serious boyfriend worked at the aforementioned grocery, and my first job was at the diner down the block. I would eventually buy my wedding dress in one of the shops across the street.
I am running out of time. This was going to be a tiny little entry, just wee capsule descriptions, but I got sucked in somehow. I think I will pick it up again tomorrow, with my move to NY, and then my first apartments. If any of you feel inspired to write similar entries, please link to them below, because I can’t seem to get enough of reading about where people live or have lived. It’s a sickness.
Before I go, I will say that what I was most struck by when remembering these places was that the difference between the city and the suburbs boiled down to a feeling of intimacy. Cities are sometimes painted as being impersonal while suburbs are cozier, but in my experience, the suburbs felt isolating while cities have felt more communal. I am sure this is not true for all cities or suburbs, but it was definitely that way for me, and I think this is why I have such strong feelings about it today—possibly in the absence of supporting logic. It’s interesting to note that now, I probably wouldn’t be likely to buy a place that fit the description of our duplex in Northeast Minneapolis, even though my 7-year-old self adored it, and I can see quite clearly why my parents chose to move to a (very-near-to-the-city) suburb. I like the country, believe it or not. Why I should feel drawn only to the ends of the urban/rural continuum I do not know.
Ahem. My god. How I do run on.
*Update* So, according to my mother—who sent me an email that began “Lies! Lies!” my uncle was NOT kicked out of his apartment, after all. I heard that tidbit from my father, who has a rather casual relationship with the truth, so she may be right.
However she ALSO denies the bottle cockroaches, claiming there was simply a little cockroach shoe-slapping by my grandmother, and on that point I refuse to allow her whitewashing of history. I KNOW WHAT I WAS TOLD.




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Funny, I’ve just been saying I’d like either be in the country or the city… but the suburbs don’t work for me. I need to walk to somewhere regularly I guess.
Here’s my brief history:
I was born in the Panama Canal Zone and lived on base. I don’t remember it, but I do remember moving back to the US at 2, where I lived in an urban, working-class neighborhood. It was great, lots of kids and people who’d been around forever. My mom grew up in that house, but my grandparents had moved to the country, so we lived in that house for a while.
Then I moved to my grandparents, down several miles of dirt rode and walking distance to a river, and endless woods. My cousin came and camped down the road every summer. It was heaven, we had one adventure after another.
Then I moved to a medium-sized town that ended up much like your suburban experience. I really didn’t fit in.
After a small town for college and Eugene, Oregon, I moved with my then-boyfriend (now doting husband) to Boston and I was in love. I loved taking the T everywhere, walking to nearly anything, the skyline… it just fit.
We eventually moved to Cambridge, even better neighborhood, but our apartment was really noisy and our neighbors were the cops and the landlord’s son, so no use complaining, even if my husband did have his thesis to defend the next day and all.
Next we lived in a small house in the suburbs of Madison, Wisconsin. Our neighbors weren’t very friendly, high school students regularly stashed their weed in our dryer vent before school (note, never live next to a high school) and we were miles from anything. We had decided to move closer in when my husband’s entire lab moved to San Diego. We lived in 2 awesome houses there (see “Beautiful Mind House” comment on your last post), both on the ragged edges of nicer areas. Both craftsman bungalows walking distance to nearly everything you’d want. We were in heaven.
Now we’re in the burbs for good schools and so on, but have found we can rent a house closer in… an urban house seems just right. A rowhouse would be perfect, but we can’t afford it here.
It’s the same reason why I insisted on living downtown for a short bit before we moved to the suburbs. I just had to live there. Sometimes driving by, I miss living there and I ask N if he misses it too and he looks at me like I am crazy. Some people are just city people. I love the city. I keep wishing we could move to a real city like Chicago. Oh how I love riding the El. See what kinda crazy likes to ride public transportation?
Jen-
Me, that’s what kind. I fantasize about the Swiss rail system, and I even miss the NYC subway, fetid pee smell and all.
I didn’t get a chance to respond earlier, but you did ask.
My family and I live in a 181 year old house in the Boston suburbs. It has turned out to be the perfect place for us … we’re in the town center, so within walking distance of the library, a pizza place, church, and the post office. We have wonderful neighbors (for me) and a large lot, with either space or a barn between us and the houses closest to us (for B). The school system is second to none, and there is plenty for my kids to do.
That said, the house has — and will continue to — cost us a LOT of money over the years. There are no cheap repairs when your house is this old. We have spent more than we ever would have in our previous house, which when we moved in was was new construction in a subdivision. Yes, it was fun to worry about nothing more substantial than what color we should paint the laundry room (final decision: mango), but I just didn’t feel at home there. Prior to buying that house we’d lived within a mile of Wrigley Field in Chicago, in a wonderful neighborhood, and I missed the city with every fiber of my being.
When my husband got this job we first considered houses in a suburb very near to Cambridge, but couldn’t afford the space we needed. We landed here because we moved our search out one town at a time until we finally found the combination of house/neighborhood/schools that we were looking for. It was one of the best decisions we’ve ever made.
I still miss living in the city — the restaurants out here are … limited in their scope. Oh, how I miss being able to run out for good Mexican food! But I’ve settled in here. It’s home.
I find this just fascinating too! I have always been a suburb kind of gal, my parents still live in the house they bought before I was born. I lived in an apartment in the burbs in college, and then bought my first house on my own, then bought my current house with my hubs….I really really love my house and my neighborhood, the only way I would be convinced to move I think is if we could get out further and actually have a little more land (not a lot but a couple-three acres) .
What a neat topic. And I can’t wait to hear about NY. It’s so far from my experience that I’m fascinated.
I grew up in a big old farmhouse. It wasn’t really a farm anymore, although we did have a huge garden and I barely ever had eaten a vegetable from a tin can until college. When I was very little we had a beef cow every year or two, and we had chickens most of my childhood. We also had ponies for a long time, but they weren’t much fun. One was lame and the other was 30-some years old and never moved. Putting a bridle on her was an academic exercise; she didn’t care.
I lived there until I went to college, although I spent a good part of high school spending nights with my grandma while she was dying until she had to go to the nursing home. She lived in town and it was a lot of fun to be walking distance from my friends for the first time.
In college I spent the school year in dorms. Not the typical dorms though. I went to a very strict Christian college where men lived on one side of campus and women on the other. You were only allowed in opposite sex dorms a few hours/week. I spent summers at a camp in Pennsylvania in the most gorgeous place on earth.
I then went to grad school at a party school. I lived in a grad dorm for a few months, but I couldn’t tolerate the contrast to my college life: noisy neighbors having sex, men in the women’s bathroom wearing only underwear in the middle of the night, etc. I moved off campus into a trailer. My mother was horrified (I’m from Appalachia and trailers there tend to be about what you picture when you think Appalachian trailer) but it was perfect for me. It was a very quiet trailer park with mainly retirees and I loved my tiny first home.
While I was in college and grad school my parents divorced and my mom moved a number of times, so home base changed a lot. I never considered any of those places home. I did spend about 6 weeks with her after I graduated before I started my first real job. I had a couple rooms in her basement and while I was unsure it turned out to be a nice time I’m glad I had with her.
I lived in a city apartment for the next few years. It was awful. I picked it because it was spacious and had lots of natural light. However, what I didn’t know was that to get the light you had to leave blinds open all the way and that wasn’t private enough. And without the blinds open it was actually dark and dingy.
After a few years I took advantage of the post-9/11 interest rates and bought a house in a tiny town of 1300, located at least 20 minutes from pretty much anything. I’m happy to only commute about an hour now and I do as much as I can in the city where I work to avoid having to drive to groceries, walmart, gas stations, etc. We do have a very expensive gas station, a hardware store that nobody buys much from, a post office, 2 banks, and a village building that is open about 4 hours per week.
The realtor thought I was nuts because my sole criteria was “no creepy basements”. I stuck by that through visits to a whole bunch of homes and this one had the best basement that I could afford. I know he thought I was bizarre, but I have very real reasons to be afraid of basements and insisting on that was the best thing I could have done. This house has faults, but I can fix those. A scary basement I couldn’t have altered and I would never have relaxed, much less been able to do laundry down there.
Eventually I want to move to the town where my mom lives. But for now this is home.
I meant to comment last night, and… I don’t know, I got distracted or fell asleep or something. Ok, seriously? I LOVE the suburbs. Weird, maybe. But I’ve lived in apartments in big cities (Seattle, Boston, Memphis), and I never felt anything communal about any of those places. Everyone was too close together, and it made everyone grumpy & rude.
Then I met my husband. At the time, I was living in an adorable microscopic apartment in downtown Seattle. I had a view of Puget Sound from my living room, and I could see the Space Needle when I walked out my front door. My husband already owned a house. In the country. On 2 acres in the middle of nowhere. But it was a 4-bedroom house, as opposed to my teeny-tiny apartment, so when things got serious, it became clear that I’d be the one expected to move. So I did. And I hated it. Talk about isolating, our nearest neighbor was a horse.
Now we live in a neighborhood where all the kids play together and freely come & go in & out of each other’s houses. The parents are all super-friendly, too. No, I can’t walk to a dozen different restaurants, but I could ride a bike to one, if so inclined. I just really love it here. It feels like home to me. (I also grew up in the suburbs, so maybe I’m biased. But suburbs in Mississippi are a whoooole different animal, trust me.)
“Who else is plunged into a fit of ennui by flooring?”
Me, that’s who!
We really are secret twins.
I hate the burbs, because I grew up there, and don’t think I could raise my kids in the seriously sketchy area of town because we did that when they were little and it was terrifying, so we are now compromising with a sort of sketchy, mostly nice kid-friendly area, midway between the burbs and the downtown.
The burbs are very lonely if you are a stay at home mom with no car and you work there and really, you will have no one to talk to. You won’t. I barely do here and I’m in a neighbourhood full of families. Thing is, everyone works during the day after they finish mat leave. So…don’t go too suburban, or you just might lose your mind.
i was giggling out loud reading the above comments. so interesting!
i was born in peoria, IL, and lived in a teeny tiny house until my dad was transferred to milwaukee 9 months later. my mom talks about the big wooden wire spool he was using as a coffee table when she moved in, and how it snowed so much that winter they couldn’t open the front door for weeks.
we lived in the burbs all of my remembered life, outside of milwaukee. the first house was a cute little ranch with a big yard and a big screened in back porch, and i have faint, sun-streaked memories of walking to visit friendly neighbors and our family best friends, who had a pool in their backyard. when he was two, my brother somehow managed, while sitting in the front seat and pretending to drive, to put our 1983 dodge van into neutral, and it rolled into their closed garage door. there was a creek near our house. we moved into the house in which my parents still reside a few months before my youngest brother was born, and the overpacked moving van cracked one of the cement driveway panels. there is a creek near that house too (actually, a branch of the fox river). that house has always been home to me, but it has been substantially redecorated so it’s not really the home of my memory. still, that’s where my brothers caught garter snakes and i refused to mow the grass for years because of said snakes. my dad used to creep out the garage door with us on sunny sunday mornings before church and show us how the snakes had draped themselves over the bush under which they lived. it’s almost a heartwarming memory, yes? ;) that house is almost where my memory starts, and it will be odd indeed when my parents leave. it’s a typical suburban house with a giant, wonderful yard in a city without sidewalks; the schools were excellent, even if they do spend too much money on sports and not enough on music and art. my closest friends devolved into religious extremists during high school, and i was only too glad to escape to college.
i spent the next 6+ years in la crosse, for undergrad and grad school, pursued my oddly matched passions of biology and music while pining after an additional english major, and ended up a physical therapist. LaX is beautiful; small but not tiny, and would be a great place to raise a family. i lived in three scary houses and one nice-ish apartment. the first house had no insulation, gigantic windows, a heating system that made the first floor warmer than the second, random holes in the walls, a frightening gas stove, and a glacier on the front walk from december until the end of april, where the two feet of snow from the roof froze solid when we left for christmas and turned off the heat. my room had the front door in it, and my dad refused to leave until i put my dresser directly in front of it. my housemates were fantastic and i finally learned to cook. my first 9 months in grad school, i lived in the upper half story of a bungalow that was a campus ministry house, b/c the rent was $300…per SEMESTER. i had to shovel snow and mow the grass, but who cared? house of horrors: first i fell onto the roof (but not off!) and dislocated my shoulder. then a bat got in while i was still high on vicodin for the shoulder. i started having panic attacks b/c of grad school and the fear of bats. then a second bat got in, and i moved out that very night, to a well-populated six-bedroom half a duplex with PT school classmates and, most importantly, no bats. the counters were blaze orange and we had the smallest bedrooms known to man, and the basement three bedrooms and bathroom flooded when we left for Christmas and turned off the heat, and the pipes froze and burst…but it was safe and felt like home, even when it was 115 at 10 p.m. in my walk-in closet of a bedroom, and my first boyfriend and i couldn’t get any closer than holding hands without spontaneous combustion…besides, we had to leave the door open or we would’ve suffocated.
i lived in eau claire, WI (TWO more bats in the space of a month!) for a month, and adams-friendship WI for a month, doing clinical internships. it was below zero for two weeks while i lived in adams, which is a town so small i could job its perimeter in 20 minutes, and i run slow. but there’s nothing else to do, so three times a week i went jogging in a parka. i lived in lexington, KY for two months for another internship, and have nothing but great memories of that town. i lived in anchorage, AK, realizing a childhood dream, for my last two-month internship. how did i find that house? i cold-called presbyterian churches! i kid you not. the house i ended up in (a pastor married to a retired pastor) required me to press my ear to the windows if i wanted to get cell reception, so i was sitting on top of their sofa, leaning on the window, when they walked in with a puppy one night. alaska AND a puppy?! quelle joie!
i lived with my parents for the first 6 months after grad school, working a temp pediatric job and dating a tortured artist of whom they disapproved. then i got an apartment in a 4-plex in an urban suburb, which was great until the downstairs neighbors got busted by the SWAT team (see comment on previous post) for selling pot. but not before three strung-out guys got stuck in our parking spot in a blizzard in february, requiring my roommate’s father, who was visiting from arizona (welcome to wisconsin!) to help them jump their engine. my roommate was nice, but never paid her rent or bills on time.
i moved to portland OR b/c i wanted to live somewhere else for awhile, and found my first two places to live on craigslist. i lived on top of a southwest hill for the first six months, in a big, sparse house with no window treatments, two big black dogs and two housemates. if i wanted to go for a run, i could either go uphill or downhill. my room was an addition on the back end of the house, so it was cold, but i had two giant closets AND a built-in wardrobe. then i got the boot b/c the homeowner was moving her boyfriend in, and i ended up in an oldish house that someone had flipped on the southeast side of town, in the fraying edge. it was peachy keen for the first year, even though one housemate got a dumb-as-a-rock pug puppy and the kitchen was kelly green. then the homeowner roommate moved her (still-married-to-another-woman-and-oh-also?-UNEMPLOYED) girlfriend in, without telling anyone, while she (homeowner) was in france and i was in wisconsin. i got a realtor within a week and bought this house as the market was tanking, which is the only reason i could even sort of afford to buy.
it’s a li’l bungalow, 700 sq ft on the main level and an exterior-entry basement that is mostly cement, and i try not to think about the part that is still dirt. i have a housemate b/c otherwise i couldn’t pay the bills, and also? i hate living alone (BATS COME WHEN YOU LIVE ALONE!). it’s cozy and it’s all mine. even the toilet that my housemate just informed me “doesn’t suck”.
I missed out on the last post, but I want to send you glee anyway :) We live in a 1941 “craftsman” 2 bed 1 bath, with a full finished basement that adds a ton of living space, none of which can be claimed on a For Sale listing :) We live in OR about 45 minutes from Portland. As the capitol, our city is large enough to not be a suburb, and yet we are close to the “big” city. Anyway, we live in the central city area. We’re very close to a major road, which I loved when we moved here and dislike profusely now that we have a toddler. I love that I can reach any where in our city within 15 minutes and that I don’t have to wind my way out of a subdivision just to get milk. We’re not a fraying edge per se, but the high percentage of rentals combined with the high traffic of the area would probably put off some. We got a great deal on the house–for us the priority was to get a house that we could afford even if we just had one income and if that income were reduced, a house that was move-in ready, and yet had potential to expand. We got that. I love the mango colored walls in my office that I painted myself after I got tired of burgundy. I hate the maintenance of being a home owner, and I know that we’re not maximizing our value AT ALL because we don’t even know half of what you are supposed to keep up with, but the ability to paint, knock out an offending wall, be loud, sleep quietly, and drill into walls has been more than worth it.
Hmm, I got a bit carried away and wrote a novel, so I posted over on my blog instead of here: http://cackleloud.blogspot.com/2009/09/our-house-in-middle-of-street.html
I love this idea, Alexa! We’re going to have to make a decision soon re: whether we stay in our current rental house or move somewhere else. How about you pick for me and I’ll pick for you?
Starting with housing I actually remember, I moved from Boise at age five to a tiny town in Alabama. Everything about that house was different, from the honeysuckle outside to the grates in the floor vent heating system that could burn a pattern into your soles of your slippers if you stood there long enough. We did. The people next door moved their house the next year, as in, movers came and jacked up the house and took it off its moorings and down the road. My six year old eyes were surprised, to say the least. The next year we moved to Salt Lake City for my stepfather to try to start a new church for a Presbyterian offshoot, and while my parents got the lay of the land, we first lived in the Colonial Motel, which they picked for its kitchenette and central location. I know it now to be a drug infested, rent by the hour sort of place (interesting for a preacher with family) then spent one month in a downtown apartment which was the main three rooms of a large converted older home, generally used by university students. Finally we moved to the cheap suburban house my parents could afford, and where they live today. When my father’s church didn’t get off the ground, we began to drive east to attend a different church and would drive though a much wealthier area although still middle class, and through the bowery of trees that could meet those on the other side of the street to create a shady tunnel in spring and summer. At the time, I thought the chief defining characteristic that was different from where I lived was the trees, since I didn’t understand economics yet. As I grew older, I knew I wanted to live on the east side and to leave my parents’ neighborhood behind but I later came to know that I wanted to have different neighbors. Throughout my wild teenaged years, university and law school I lived downtown in the older neighborhoods in older converted homes and duplexes that were noteworthy for their decayed wood flooring and arched doorways and old fashioned push button light switches that sometimes shocked you in the night due to faulty wiring. When I finally bought my own home I bought a small Victorian house in exactly the neighborhood I coveted as a child and I wondered at my great good fortune to be able to do so as a single woman. I traded up to have more space for children but I still refuse to go out to the suburbs. I could literally buy twice as much land and house for the price but I cannot go into the sea of sameness of design, or people without prospects who hold such conservative views. So I live in the arty, liberal zone where Obama bumper stickers can be seen every day! My house is 101 this year and needs a lot of attention from my handy husband. We just received the city stamp of approval for a building permit to tear down a useless garage and build one for two, which will have me tearing my hair out for the next few months, but I wouldn’t have it any other way.
I hate carpet and only allow it in the basement.
No bats, ever.
I love this post and the comments are killing me! Look forward to more tomorrow.
This is fascinating. A house means so much. (They even have names in these islands, which seems only right.)
I was born into a 60’s square house with huge plate glass windows that my parents built in south Co Dublin, called Hialeah. From there to Arcachon, a draughty but elegant Victorian on a hilly road overlooking the Irish Sea. That’s the one I dream of, I was there till I was 20. From then, it’s been a steep drop to various studenty pads in Dublin inner suburbs, (oh the giddy delight of being able to walk to the all night convenience shops), to 605 Second Ave, an apartment over a store in a small town on the Jersey Shore. THAT was colourful, alright. We were sandwiched between an Irish pub and a Chinese takeaway – strains of Danny Boy would waft up on a fried chicken flavoured fog. I escaped to NYC every weekend. And now, I am married and living in Dublin again, in a nice old neighbourhood on the northside, with Dubliners as neighbours, and parks and (gasp) children, but still walkable to town (albeit through some mean(er) streets). I love our little house, with its bumpy walls and crooked floorboards, even though it needs so much work.
Thanks for this. Very entertaining.
I’m with Kim above: after seven years in the suburbs, husband and I decided we were either city people or country people. I honestly think we would’ve been happy either place, but now I can’t imagine living anywhere else.
And I’m so with you on floors.
I live in the same suburb of St. Louis that I grew up in. It is historic, though the section I live in is not, thus I can afford it. I LOVE living here. My kids ride their bikes all the time. We walk to and from school. Said schools are excellent. We can walk to parks and to the tiny neighborhood pool we belong to. We have 1/3 of an acre, so enough room to run around on. My kids play outside all the time.
We definitely have to drive to get to good food. For the record.
The neighborhood its self is devoid of character – ranch homes built in the 50’s. It was a sacrifice, quite honestly, when we moved in. I hated settling on such a boring house. But, I have grown to love it (hardwood floors though out!) and we are closing on the loan this afternoon that will allow us to begin construction on a second story addition (carpet up there – bummer.) Finally – more than two bedrooms!
Alexa
I was born in Uniontown, Pennsylvania and lived in Fairchance, PA until I was 5. We rented a SMALL, when I say small, I mean we used the dining room as a bedroom because we ran out of rooms! It had a coal furnace that my mom and dad had to go down into the the dungeon a dozen times a night in the dead of winter to throw coal into to keep the house barely warm. It was awful. But I vagukey remember having so many animals in our back yard because out back, through a patch of woods, on the other side was a huge farm. And all the animals somehow ventured over to our house. We were so far out in the country, no one cared where their animals were. I remember waking up every morning to cows looking in my back door! Hilarious! I would say, “Mornin’MooCows!”
So we then went from country bumpkins-to city slickers and moved to Pittsburgh Pa when I turned 6. We lived there until I was 20. So basically, I grew up in the city. When we moved back to the country, I thought I was going to DIE! I said I was never going to survive country life. I was so used to country life. We then ventured back to Peryopolis, PA which is about halfway to Uniontown. which is where we stayed until I got married and moved to Connellsville, PA. which is where I have been since. I have been here for 7 years now. We are looking to move more into the country and build a house. A one floor, ranch with alot of property for the kids. Sell the house we have now, it’s so big and alot of work and maintenance. All I can say is that you can take the girl out of the country, but you can’t take the country out of the girl!!! Amen!!
The way you feel about a house is the way I feel about a two-story house (I’ve always lived in one-story houses). I’m uncomfortable with the idea of a whole floor of the house that I can’t see.
I’m with you on the ends of the urban/rural continuum. If I ever win the lottery I will have a house on 20–30 acres in some isolated part of Montana and a loft in Manhattan and will travel back and forth whenever the mood strikes. I grew up in a small town about 20 minutes west of Atlanta, and back then it was a great place to grow up. Small enough that we knew everyone, could ride our bikes all over the neighborhood, play in the woods and creeks around my house, etc. Today, that little town is a sprawling suburb with metal detectors in the high schools. After college I lived in a series of apartments in and around Atlanta, but still had to drive most places–Atlanta’s train system has one line that runs north/south and one that runs east/west, and that’s it. For me, it was only good for getting back and forth to the airport. I spent a lot of time with friends in New York and fell in love with the city. About 9 years ago I got the same urge you have now, to settle somewhere, own something, and paint my own walls! I bought a house in a northeast suburb because it was close to work, I liked the floorplan, and I could afford it. I do have to drive everywhere, but nothing is more than 5–10 minutes away. After getting married, my husband and I thought it would be a good place for kids (large, fenced backyard), but infertility has killed that plan. Atlanta traffic is horrific, but Atlanta does have some urban neighborhoods that are charming and walkable (and expensive), but moving down there would increase our 8 minute commute to 30-40 minutes. We do enjoy having a lot of space, and the tax deduction is great, so for now we are staying put, but we know that this place isn’t forever, especially if kids don’t eventually come along, one way or another. For now, I’m just waiting for the lottery!
I’ve basically only lived in two places my entire life. Wyoming and the south side of Chicago. I spent my first 18 years living “in town” in a small town in the north east corner of Wyoming -surrounded by vast prairie and then the mountains. My parents were teachers. All of my friends parents were either ranchers or coal miners. We lived in a sketchy neighborhood and to this day I am still very close with all of the kids I grew up with.
I moved to Hyde Park in Chicago to go to college. After a year in the dorms I moved to Woodlawn which is Hyde Park’s naughty, redheaded, step brother that everybody loves to trash talk. It is the ghetto – a little bit. Within a year of moving to Woodlawn I experienced my first drive-by shooting, my first ride on the El, my first Harold’s Chicken Shack (you order your chicken thru bullet proof glass), and a different sense of community thru other dog owners. My husband and I have lived in two condos and a town house all on the same block in Woodlawn. We’re sandwhiched between an Art Teacher and prostitutes, across the street from new construction condos and public housing. We’re much friendlier with the prostitutes. When I go back to Wyoming to visit I get very highschooly – moody, bitchy, cranky. When I get back to The Big Bad City, I finally feel like I can breath. Weird huh? When I’m not grumbling at the hoodlums on the corner, I’m walking my baby to the park, riding my bike to work downtown, or walking to get coffee in Hyde Park. My husband and I bitch when there are drive by shootings or when the neighbors get a little rowdy but I think it would be impossible for us to live anywhere else in this city. We kind of love our rough little ‘hood.
How quaint is this? I grew up on a street called Melody Court in the 1970’s. It was the BEST place to grow up. It was a court and we lived right at the very end on the court. I could look out my window and see the whole street. Our street was filled with kids of all ages, and my very best friend lived on the same street. We have currently reconnected on Facebook and it is pretty neat. I miss that street.
I live in Cambridge and had to comment right away so that cockroaches aren’t (the only thing) associated with living here! (And bless your mother, I’m sure her memory is jangled a little by the thought of all of us tsk tsking about her parenting skills vis a vis innocent baby you and the cockroach-covered bottle. I believe you though. I KNOW what I heard too and have the memory of an elephant in a family of .. more forgetful creatures.)
I didn’t understand when we first moved to Cambridge what a fabulously dense city this is. People live in triple deckers, where, for example, we live on a second floor of a condoized house and bought our floor without having met the family on the first floor or the woman on the third. (All of whom are wonderful – thank goodness.) I LOVE the fact that our footprint is no bigger than it needs to be house-wise. It makes so much sense to live this way. And we live in a place where there is green space, wonderful restaurants, great culture, diversity, etc. but also lots to work on to keep young families from being forced to leave the city for better schools and affordable housing. It’s a big ongoing struggle.
I grew up in a Foreign Service family based in wordly -wise Washington, DC where my parents had a house with a yard in a suburban part of the city. We would rent our house to German embassy families (whose embassy was basically at the end of our street) when we were overseas and move back in when we were posted back in the states.
Particularly when we were little, there was a real neighborhood feel – lots of kids riding their hotwheels, playing four square, bunny hopscotch, roller skating. There were woods at the bottom of our hill, which were scary but when I was 13 and 14 enabled me to walk to a friend’s house who lived at the other end of the woods without crossing a street (of course being on constant guard for vagrants and vagabonds.). We could walk to supermarkets, Georgetown with all its fancy stores, a Magic Pan, corner stores, parks. It was heaven and I loved it.
When I was in 9th grade my parents moved to West Africa and I was shipped off to a Massachusetts boarding school in the REAL suburbs, where kids hadn’t a clue about West Africa and confused Ghana, where my parents were posted, with Guyana and Jonestown where all those people were massacred by drinking Kool Aid.. I did feel isolated, surrounded by kids who were mostly less worldy-wise..
College was the same in suburban PA.
After college, I moved back to DC at home and in group houses. DC was still wonderfully globally-focused for me. I went into the Peace Corps and lived with Peace Corps friends afterwards in small group townhouses where it mattered less who the neighbors were because were were all so self-consumed and working most of the time anyway.
Grad school in Baltimore was the same I lived in an apartment in a suburban part of the city but where I could walk to shops, restaurants, parks, etc. but was less consumed by my neighborhood than I was with my freinds.
It’s terrible what so much suburban sprawl has meant to people’s quality of life, their abillity to walk or bike to school or work. Their ability to interact civically.
Fringe or not, I think more and more people are realizing the value of cities. And this means that there’s a lot of urban renewal and change going on in a lot of places. Retirees are realizing the value of living in environments where they can get aorund to shops and restaurants and not be so isolated from the rest of the world.
I’m droning on and on here , so I’ll stop. But this is such an interesting topic!
Wall-to-wall carpeting is totally depressing.
Babble (http://babble.com/index.aspx) is doing a city kid vs. country kid issue right now.
I was afraid of being alone in my own house overnight until my mid-30’s. Then, poof! I wasn’t, although there’s a screened-in crawl space in the basement that I know houses vampires.
I grew up in one house. My dad is now emptying and selling that house, and so far I feel nothing at all about the change. It wasn’t MY house the way my current house is. The house I’m in now is the first house I owned, the place I’ve lived as long as I’ve been married, the place where I’ve really experienced life. I have keys to several neighbors’ houses and garages. I share a chest freezer with one of them. I share garbage service with another. My neighbors have taken care of my cats, seen me through family issues, shared cookies with me, and are the people I call when I need an egg or some tomato paste or need to unload a loaf or two of zucchini bread. I LOVE being so close to neighbors that I can see into their homes. I can hear the 12-year-old girl next door singing in her bedroom, and recall when she was 4 and would come over after dinner on days when it snowed to shovel our walk with her Barbie shovel. I will never live outside a dense city neighborhood.
I have many, many vivid dreams. One recurring dream is that we’ve sold our house, and I don’t know why, and I try in my dream to get it back but I can’t. This dream is filled with anxiety for me. It is the worst dream I have, and to put it in context for you, I also dream that my dead mother comes back to life and just shows up at family events and we don’t know how to explain to her that my dad has remarried.
A few thoughts on where I lived growing up:
http://almostclouds.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/location-location-location/
Why, gosh! Another reason to talk about me? Sure, why not!
I was born in Naperville Il which was mostly an accident. All my family is from Minnesota but for some reason my dad had a job for about 3 years around the time I was born. So I get to claim having been born in a different state. My mom HATED it there – she is a suburban gal herself but knew nobody and stayed at home with me and my sister but didn’t have any family around. They moved back to Anoka in 1972 (or 73? I forget, I was pretty young at the time).
Back in Anoka my parents moved (I have to pause and count) 5 times in the course of 6 years, all in the same town (Anoka). Truth be told I think that era has been clouded by the illness and passing of my older sister to leukemia in 1975 (she was 10, I was 5) and the adoption of my Korean sister in 1976 because when they finally landed in a house in 1978 they stayed in that house until 2003. I of course have tons of memories of that house – it was brand new in 1978 and my dad modified it A LOT over the years – it was home. Through all my meandering in my 20’s (I sound so interesting, I didn’t meander all that much) my legal address was always my parents house in Anoka. It was so so much easier than filing for all those address changes. School was ok – in a white-bread, generic sort of way. I was such a wallflower then that I don’t think it would have mattered where I went to school.
But my history. First year of college I commuted from Anoka to the U. It was cheaper. Next two years I lived in Illinois again – once again the suburbs of Chicago (Lisle and Glen Ellyn). Suburbs in Chicago feel different than Minnesota suburbs. More isolated. At least that is my take from having lived in both. My dad had taken a job with the same company that he worked for when I was born and lived in Il to work there (even though my parents are still married. They went through this sort-of separation period in the early 90s. Since they are still married I believe they reconciled, mostly. They have their own bedrooms so they are happy living together at this point.) I worked on my photography degree which I loved doing (OLD FASHIONED photography, where you had to sniff chemicals to make prints. Ah, the good ol’ days.)
Went back to the U of MN, lived both on and off campus. Loved living on campus for the most part but didn’t like the expense. Got done with degree, lived with roommates, found that to be too expensive, moved back in with parents at 28 to pay some bills. This is where I lived when I met husband who lived further north than that.
My only complaint about my town I live in now (way in the north metro) is that we as a town can’t seem to spend any more money on education. This is why I believe my son will be going to private school (a large catholic school in Anoka in fact. Not because I’m catholic in any way, but because it’s a good school). It will be easier to schedule (due to my parents living right there near it) and I think he will learn more than he would out in our schools in the sticks.
I adore my house. Brand new construction – built in 2003. Had an unfinished basement that my crafty husband finished by 2007 (ah toddler and construction in a home! Now there’s a fun story!). My four year old son has a nice big yard, can ride his bike in the street and not be worried about cars (too much anyway) and there are a ton of kids around. Whole neighborhood is new (we are actually one of the ‘older’ homes). I really like the idea behind having a home that is older with more ‘character’ – but I don’t relish the work involved. Plus there is something to be said about having new and creating with a fresh pallet. But that’s just me. Too bad I can’t post photos of my lovely house. We have a beautiful slate fireplace and gorgeous woodwork my husband did – and custom made furniture by him. Yes I’m bragging. :-)
And I love carpet and like I mentioned before I love being at home alone in my house. I didn’t mind being at home at my parents house alone either, despite the fact that my grandma actually passed away in that house (she lived with my parents for 12 years until she died, in her living room, in 1987). Maybe I’m just a loner. We spent hours and hours and hours picking out new carpet for our family room – it was fantastic. :-)
Ok I suppose I should work again. Thanks for letting me talk about myself again!
You’re definitely not the only one plunged into ennui by flooring! Carpet just bothers me. Happily, I was just able to rip up all the carpet left in my house and replace it with lovely, lovely hardwoods. Yay!
Man, I feel positively boring.
I lived in the same suburban tract house on Long Island from the day I came home from the hospital until the day I left for college. My parents moved to that house in the spring of 1960; they watched it be built and moved in when it was still strewn with sawdust. And they still live there today.
As a child, the notion of moving to a new house was wondrous to me, something that only kids on tv or in books got to do.
Reconstructing the eight or ten places I have lived since (including not one but two moves forced on me by natural disasters), now *that’s* a blog post. ;-)
I have lived all over the country-well, almsot all over. I started out in Connecticut, in a small 2 bedroom home in a suburb of Hatford that was shared with my 2 sisters and my folks. I was relatively lucky in that I lived there all the way up thru high school. I never thought much about how great my hometown was, until I moved away, and I then realized how awesome it was. I took for granted that I knew where everything was, and had a good idea of just where everyone in my school lived. And I always felt safe. I went away to college in upstate New York, and although it was beautiful, it never felt comfortable. After school, I worked in Connecticut for a year before deciding that I needed to return to school, so moved (and why not?) to Florida for grad school. I love Florida. I love the warm (okay, brutally hot) weather. Gainesville felt pretty comfy, there was lots to do, and tons of restaraunts, and being of a certain age (early twenties) I fit in quite nicely. After Graduate school came a short stint in Seattle-I felt awed and overwhelmed by the big city-but a scary-good kind of overwhelmed if that makes sense. I left Seattle after 6 months (I moved there because I was in love, alas, he didn’t love me back) and returned to Florida, but this time to little St.Augustine on the Eastern Coast. This little town was rife with history and bars. A wonderful combination for someone nursing a broken heart. After a job transfer-I relocated to Orlando. Now THIS is a cool place to live. Not only do you have all the theme parks-so everyone is on vacation constantly and in a good mood, but the locals realize how good they have it and are also freindly. I was a bit terrified of the neighborhoods that I could afford to live in, renting always, and I think my dog protected me from more than one ugly potential incident. Then came a job change and a relocation to Knoxville, Tenn. It was beautiful here, but if you were out of the college age loop, a bit hard to break in to the social scene, so it never felt like home. The next move was to Philadelphia. I was more comfortable with the big city (although I still rented in the suburbs), and felt a bit like an intruder when in the city proper. I also felt like I stood out like a sore thumb, and my boyfriend would comment that I had no street sense whatsoever-not a particularly good quality in the big city. We then (my boyfriend who is now my husband) moved to New Orleans. My hubby loved this place-for me; meh. Lots of places to eat, but the folks were stand off-ish and literally spoke a different language. And now we are in Daytona Beach (just North of) and I really feel like it is home. Of course, I have been here long enough that I know where everything is, and my kids were born here (Nicole 4yrs, and Erica 2yrs), so now I feel like anywhere they are is home. David would like to move farther South, but I like knowing my neighbors and feeling secure. I do get creeped out at night in the house if I am alone. We no longer have a dog (she died of old age the poor thing), so not having that “early warning system” can be freaky. I get even more freaked knowing that my girls are so vunerable. We are investigating a home security system just for a little extra peace of mind. Having kids can mess with your mind!! Hope all is well, and please keep on writing-I love your blog!
-G
I totally relate to your experiences growing up in the city. I grew up in Uptown long before it was “Uptown” and the appearance of Calhoun Square. The Uptown Art Fair I remember is one where a kid could roam for hours and buy a pair of earrings and a cool calendar for $5. My neighbors were a mixture of Ward-and-June-Cleaver families, lesbian couples, musicians, and hippies. When I went to a private high school in the suburbs, the other kids thought I lived in the slums when I told them I lived a few blocks from Lake & Hennepin. I learned quickly to describe my home’s location as as “a few blocks east of Lake Calhoun”. I’m a “city kid” through-and-through who never thought I would buy a house in the suburbs until I saw this place and fell in love. The house is less than a mile from the Mpls border and my block does have sidewalks, so I made my peace with the ‘burbs and took the plunge!!
I look forward to reading the rest of your tale soon!!
I didn’t get to comment yesterday, but I live in the suburbs (of the twin cities) right now. There are things I like, and things I don’t. I grew up in a small town, with D.C being the closest city, about 1 1/2 hours away. I love being close to Mpls and St. Paul now. (I’m in AV, so it’s easy to hop on either 35 and head north…) I like the suburbs, because I’m close to things I like.. lots of parks, my church, TARGET. But I miss the city. I lived in Houston for a year and outside of Chicago for two years. I sometimes drive around in St. Paul (I work here) down Highland Ave, for example, and REALLY WISH I lived in one of those neighborhoods, but like you… I can’t afford it. I can only afford one of the oldest houses in AV… so we get to the reason why I am in the suburbs. I want a house. My husband and I had an AWFUL experience in an Apt the year we were married, and I LOVE having a house all to ourselves with a giant yard for our dogs. (Dogs that allow me to feel safe when I’m alone ;)
My husband keeps saying “R” it’s the new Northeast (where we used to live).
No one is convinced yet, but we keep trying.
I lived just north of Seattle until age 16 when we moved to San Diego. When I left San Diego at age 32 (fear of Y2K!!) I cried almost all the way to Idaho. I thought I’d never find another good person, I was leaving them all behind. Where we lived in N. Central Idaho was waaaay to rural. Had to drive 14 miles for a gallon of milk. I thought it was too cold for the kids to play outside so they didn’t. We moved to town after 9 months of misery and that is when my life began! I went to college, made great friends and GOT A DIVORCE! Idaho was good to me. It was about the relationships, not so much the landscape or the weather (in Idaho it’s never about the weather). I live in Easten Washington now and still LOOOONG for Idaho. I don’t feel as safe here but I’m going to slug it out until youngest finishes high school. Then I’m headed south… It hurts to be cold!!!
Alexa this is so interesting! It’s very fascinating to me how other people live. I feel like my life is kinda boring compared to so many others.
I was born and raised in the suburbs of Salt Lake City. I lived in the same house from the time I was 2 until I was 18 years old. It wasn’t a fancy house, but it felt like home. I still have dreams about it all the time. We lived in a cul-de-sac, had a spacious backyard, and there were lots of kids to play with, especially on summer nights. We lived about 20 minutes away from the mountains and often went to the canyons. I love having the mountains as a backdrop.
When I was 18 we moved about 15 minutes south of where we were. At the time there area wasn’t too populated, but now it’s exploding with large homes on small lots of land.
I moved down to and apartment in Provo briefly during college, but never really enjoyed it down there.
I got married and moved to a townhouse in the suburbs about 35 min away from SLC. When we moved in there wasn’t much around and it seemed like a good spot. It was pretty close to the freeway (we commute a lot), but it was calm and quiet with a nice big field behind us that deer would occasionaly roam. Now, once again, the area is exploding. Gas stations, fast food restaurants, etc., are being built nearby, which is convenient, but traffic is getting much worse. They are currently developing the beautiful field behind us with big homes on tiny lots and condo buildings that block our view of the mountains. The construction is driving me crazy, and my poor baby has to take her naps in the basement during the day (don’t worry, it’s finished and not creepy) because the construction is so loud. My little townhouse is quickly losing the things I once liked about it so much.
Sometimes I fantasize about living in the city, I think it would be so fun to be within walking distance of places. However, ultimately I would like to live in the suburbs to raise a family with a nice big, peaceful plot of land where my kids can play. I’d love to be surrounded by trees and trails and have my own garden. Someday…
I don’t think I could ever live in a small town in the middle of nowhere though. My husband grew up in a small town about an hour away from where we live now, and his family is still there. It’s grown a lot from when he lived there, but I don’t know if I could be there permanently. To be honest the thing that bothers me most is the closed-minded, “small town mentality”. There are nice people there, but their way of thinking drives me insane. Luckily my husband has no desire to move back (which all his friends and relatives living there think is crazy).
I think I am like you, plunged to the depths of either end of the continuum. That said, I live in an older section of town, the oldest house on the block, the one that owned all the land and sold it off, chunk by chunk to families some time during the 50s. It is neither urban nor rural enough, though it is decidedly not cookie-cutter suburban. I don’t quite know what to call it.
And interestingly, I grew up in a similar place, just outside Austin, which (at the time) was a decidedly small-to-medium sized town, not the busting-at-the-seams million plus sized town it is now. It was a neighborhood with kids and no sidewalks where there were several models of homes to choose from, but the lots were large, and bordered on one edge by a creek, with another creek across the street, so it definitely didn’t feel cookie-cutter suburban. There were several continuous unfenced acres that were the back yards of neighbors, none of which had ever been planted in any specific way, and there were maybe 5 small neighborhoods in the area, interspersed with cattle farms, so it was very much like being in the country. Except that neighbors were close by. And the city was only about 15 minutes away. Kind of the best of both worlds as a kid, but awful as a non-driving teenager, since the buses didn’t serve our area. Oh, and there was a graveyard just across the creek from us, and it was endless fun as a tween/teen to hang out with friends, freaking each other out, chasing each other among the gravestones, just generally causing a ruckus until the sheriffs were called to force us back home.
I currently live in Winston-Salem, NC, which is basically a giant frayed edge. When tobacco began to decline in the 80s, RJ Reynolds was hit hard (not that this is a bad thing at it’s core, but that the employees, and thus this town, were practically devastated). So, there was this bump of development in the 20s, and then another bump in the early 80s, only to have the city’s wealthiest residents basically dry up, and the middle-class residents follow jobs elsewhere. The city supported a blue-collar lifestyle, back when a blue-collar lifestyle was sufficient for a family. And so now, it’s still got blue-collar families, only no one can afford a decent lifestyle for their family on the few remaining blue-collar jobs that are available. So, it’s just a giant, sprawling city with not enough people, and not enough tax base to maintain- a fringe if there ever was one. Kind of sad, honestly.
I have also lived in a dorm in Los Angeles (fun, probably too much so, judging by my grades), a house with a friend in a different community a little further outside Austin (which was located across the street from a cattle farm but actually in the midst of a very old trailer park), a house with a friend in a 1940s central Houston suburb, a student co-op in central Austin (despite the insanity of having 20 housemates, this was actually my favorite), various apartments in central Austin, and then a crappy ghetto apartment here before buying our house.
While I love our house, and I love our land (we have 1.5 acres), I do sometimes wish we were further out from the city, OR that we had bought a town home in the city center. I am happy where we are, but I often fantasize that if we aren’t able to conquer this whole infertility thing, that as a semi-consolation prize, we’ll sell the 4 bedroom house and move to a more urban atmosphere. Obviously, I’d rather have a passel of kids to fill up all the bedrooms, but if it never happens, perhaps I can fulfill the other dream of living someplace with more going on.
I was born and grew up in Cape Town, South Africa. First in a not so nice area on the outskirts where everything was a bit more wind blown and drier, and then when i was about 2 I think, we moved to a lovely green home closer to the mountain where i lived for the next 18 years, sometimes happily, but mostly not. I moved out of home and in with my boyfriend and bought my first place at twenty – which was a mistake! but i was young and i thought I knew better. Anyway, that was a lovely tiny house, 100 year old victorian in a bohemian part of town right next to nigerian drug dealers ( I kid you not – at least they deterred car thieves). When that inevitably fell apart i moved back in with my mother, which was horrible, not that my mom was bad, just the situation. After that it was another Victorian with my cousin, which had a beautiful english garden filled with roses and lavender and chameleons. After about 2 years or so i moved into the city centre itself right on the side of the mountain, so i would literally wake up and look out onto the city bowl, the mountain and the sea. It was fantastic. the sunsets… Now I live in London UK. Started off in a not very nice area, but am now in Richmond, which although only 20 minutes away from Waterloo, feels at times like the country, lovely big parks, the river running through it and lots of pubs. Would love to settle somewhere though – just can’t figure out which country i want to raise my future kids in..
gosh this has turned out long… I think you might have started something here.
P.S. All the bad houses have had carpets – all my happy spaces have been wood.
On the communal feeling that you have about cities, Steven Johnson’s Ghost Map comes to a similar conclusion. The premise of the book is to detail the eruption of cholera in London in the early 19th century, but he ultimately finds himself discussing the creative, productive, and efficient nature of cities – so many people so close together fuels creativity and community.
1. I’M DEPRESSED BY CARPET, TOO. And also I feel that it’s somehow inherently dirty, much more so than hardwood is. Maybe it’s because I have no block against Swiffer/Mops, but I have a huge hatred for vacuums. Funny how one neurosis so often ties into another.
2. I have always liked living in the city. Boyfriend wants to move to the suburbs one day so he can have a big house and a big yard and whatever, and the idea makes me feel terribly lonely, even if the event is 10 years in the future. I love living in an apartment. Maybe it’s because my neighbors are all also young professionals and we gather in each other’s homes to drink beer and play Wii tennis because everything else costs too much. Hmph.
I love this. I love houses, apartments, condos. Whenever my husband and I travel to a new city, we look at real estate listings, *just to see* what life there might be like.
I grew up in Twin Cities suburbs (one house till I was five, another until college) but can’t imagine living in a similar neighborhood now. I can’t visit the old ‘hood without singing “Little Boxes/on a hillside/little boxes made of ticky-tacky.”
We live in Mpls in an older and smaller house, close enough to the neighbors to see what they’re having for dinner if we glance out the window, and we love it. We’re allergic to home improvement projects, and having a small house and yard keeps the work manageable. We can walk to parks, sushi, ice cream, wine shop, bakery, Mexican food, pizza — all the necessities of life. You should come be our neighbor here. :) The edges are just frayed enough to be affordable.
i forgot about the flooring; i prefer hardwoods, but just got a dog and the hair tumbleweeds are driving me crazy. the carpet in the bedrooms sure is nice in the winter. interestingly, the family room of my parents’ house went back and forth between hardwood and carpet in the first 12 years we lived there. the hardwood is very dark brown, which lends the room (fireplace and beamed ceiling) a strangely medieval air. naturally, they put in brand-new off-white carpeting just months before getting a puppy.
back and forth FOUR times. i keep leaving out words.
Carpet sucks. Holds up to ten times its own weight in dust (Essentially comprised of dead skin and toxic flame retardants. Yes. True.). Counting our pennies until we can replace the wall-to-wall upstairs!
This was fun to read. More, more! Also, carpet is a demon. Unhygenic and ugly. Hate, hate, hate, hate hateyhate.
I was writing you a comment on your previous post on house vs. flat, but had to abandon it because Garrrr Migraine, so instead here is where I’ve lived 1980-2000 in case you are still interested.
I grew up in the Siskiyou National Forest. A duplex rental on a dairy farm until I was 7. Another rental on an abandoned farm with the most romantic overgrown orchard until I was 12. Then we moved into the house my father built and one night a huge storm blew up the river valley and we heard a massive explosion. In the morning Dad went up the hillside, into the forest and came back to report that the 500 year old Tan Oak we had named the Queen Mary had blown down.
Then I went to Finland for a year. My first urban experience.
Then I lived in Coos Bay Oregon for a year. Dying timber town. Well it was dying then pretty much dead now.
Then I moved to Seattle. Dorm, apartment, apartment, apartment, apartment, apartment, apartment. Coolest apartment – top floor brick building U-district. Studio with parquet floors, original bathtub, leaded glass cabinets, high ceilings, great light (didn’t need to close blinds EVER). Then house divorce apartment and finally bought my own house five years ago. I hate carpet too and often feel overwhelmed by being a home owner. But nothing makes me feel prouder. And I love my sketchy neighborhood (Beacon Hill) and I love my sketchy neighbors. Yes, even the one who steals bikes and sells them for a living. He bbq’ed for my kid’s birthday party.
Get the house, Alexa, and watch your daughter play in your yard. It will make you a special kind of happy.
I found the house for you! (Well, maybe. But it’s a steal, in a great neighborhood, so CUTE.) In Mac-Groveland, on Jefferson, near Cleveland (not as many things to walk to as where you live now but still plenty), 1920s bungalow with 2BR, original cabinetry, under $200K. That price is UNHEARD of in that neighborhood. I was looking for a friend who isn’t seriously looking. Seriously, take a look.
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